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Phat Member Posts: 18716 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
zombie writes: I agree that any sound can be duplicated, but the technology or instrument must be present that duplicates it. There are certain sounds that no ordinary human can make. If your ear can hear it - i.e if it is a sound wave - then it can be duplicated. What maybe can not be duplicated is a glitch in your brain that causes you to think you hear something that isn't really there, that isn't really a sound at all. As for the glitch in my brain...I will admit that I may have been hearing things and/or that I only thought I heard what I heard--except for the reaction from two other people present who also indicated that "yes...we all heard something"!! Perhaps my conclusion as to what the sound was was made premature and was fueled by confirmation bias. All I know is that the incident freaked all of us out and were you to interview the witnesses they would confirm that fact.
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ringo Member (Idle past 737 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Similarly, it would help if there was technology present to detect it and, ideally, record it to confirm its reality.
I agree that any sound can be duplicated, but the technology or instrument must be present that duplicates it. Phat writes:
Consulting with others is an important early step in your analysis of the observation. However, the glitch in your brain may be either hardware-related - e.g. hallucination - or software-related - e.g. a culturally-biased belief in spooks. A consensus can eliminate the former but not the latter.
As for the glitch in my brain...I will admit that I may have been hearing things and/or that I only thought I heard what I heard--except for the reaction from two other people present who also indicated that "yes...we all heard something"!!
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Phat Member Posts: 18716 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
zombie writes: Are you suggesting that a biased group of believers would more readily consider a woo explanation whereas a group of critical thinking skeptics would to this day have no conclusion for such an event? the glitch in your brain may be either hardware-related - e.g. hallucination - or software-related - e.g. a culturally-biased belief in spooks. A consensus can eliminate the former but not the latter. I can see it now.... ![]() GOD: "I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life"
Critical Thinking Skeptics: We are currently interpreting all possible data and will arrive at our own consensus within our lifetime. I wont argue that its better to ask more questions rather than jumping to conclusions...but one cannot remain forever uncommitted, can they? Edited by Phat, : No reason given. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo If You Don't Stand For Something You Will Fall For Anything~Malcolm X
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ringo Member (Idle past 737 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
Duh. (I hope you're being sarcastic.)
Are you suggesting that a biased group of believers would more readily consider a woo explanation whereas a group of critical thinking skeptics would to this day have no conclusion for such an event? Phat writes:
Criical Thinking Skeptics: We're going to need to see some photo ID. There was a guy in here yesterday who claimed to be God and He had a much better offer.
GOD: "I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life" Critical Thinking Skeptics: We are currently interpreting all possible data and will arrive at our own consensus within our lifetime. Phat writes:
Isn't it better to be forever uncommitted than to be committed to the wrong thing?
...but one cannot remain forever uncommitted, can they?
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Phat Member Posts: 18716 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
Did you see the latest from Pope Francis?
Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real and God is not 'a magician with a magic wand'Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden. (Leo Tolstoy)
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ringo Member (Idle past 737 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
He's still talking Intelligent Design:
Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real and God is not 'a magician with a magic wand'quote:
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Tangle Member Posts: 9634 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Phat writes: Did you see the latest from Pope Francis? The Catholic church has accepted evolution for generations. They just say that god sticks a soul in Homo sapiens at the correct moment. Just more bizarre bollocks invented to maintain their absurd beliefs. Evolution and the Catholic Church - WikipediaLife, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Jon Inactive Member |
Hi, Phat!
How was your New Years? Summation mode already, huh? My, how the time does fly!Love your enemies!
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Phat Member Posts: 18716 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
My New Years was peaceful. I decided beforehand that I would rather start a year fresh rather than end a year wasted. It is a rare soul that can do both.
One sure way to wage effective spiritual war is to be intentional and patient. What we say to ourselves and to others is very important. Words can either be used to bless or to curse. And in the final analysis, are we not responsible for every word and sentence which comes out of our mouths and of every thought that we think? Edited by Phat, : fixed quoteSaying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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jar Member (Idle past 164 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Phat writes: One sure way to wage effective spiritual war is to be intentional and patient. What is a spiritual war?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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ringo Member (Idle past 737 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
The best spiritual defense is a good spiritual offense? One sure way to wage effective spiritual war is to be intentional and patient. When is Demon-Day? Are we invading NormanDemon or the Pas Demon Calais?
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
The best spiritual defense is a good spiritual offense? Don't you know your psalms: Even though I walk through the valley of shadow of death, I fear no evil because I was prepared and brought kick-ass weapons and will totally whoop their butts if they come at me, bro.
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Jon Inactive Member |
My New Years was peaceful. Good to hear. We didn't do much either. We were going to watch the ball drop somewhere, but we got confused with the timezones and the way our new cable company broadcasts and we Charlie Browned the whole thing.Love your enemies!
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Phat Member Posts: 18716 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
The battle is between our carnal nature(what we like to do in that it feels good and is often selfish) and our spiritual nature(altruistic, regarding others better than ourselves)
Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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Phat Member Posts: 18716 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
What is a spiritual war? Perhaps the term "war" misleads some. You yourself have described such a conflict.
quote: When you see an attractive girl,for example...and you are a teenager full of hormones...the first natural inclination is to try and have her.This is the Yetzer Hara. The second inclination is to bless her and keep your hands off of her since she is so beautiful and rare. This is the Yetzer Tov.Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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