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Dr Adequate
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Message 1 of 1639 (749316)
02-03-2015 4:46 PM


I keep looking at the sodding calendar. I am fairly certain that it's early 2015. The presidential election, I keep looking it up, is in November 2016. And yet people keep telling me that the primary season is upon us. I think the whole world has gone mad.
And yet, here we are. Here we fucking are. God help us all.
So, once again, this is the thread for discussing the primaries, and if you even think we should be doing so at this point, then may you be cursed with a thousand plagues and may angry wombats eat your underwear. Nonetheless ... here we are.
I shall write my customary bitterly sarcastic synopsis of the candidates at the first moment when I've recovered from the concept that we should even be thinking about this crap right now.
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Message 8 of 1639 (749591)
02-06-2015 12:54 AM
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02-05-2015 11:23 PM


Re: JEB
I would definitely vote for the corpse of Herbert Hoover.

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Message 14 of 1639 (754036)
03-24-2015 12:00 AM


Things Ted Cruz Doesn't Know
Well, Ted Cruz is the first to officially announce his candidacy, and he's off to a flying start, because in the very speech he did so, he pledged to "repeal every word of Common Core", unaware, apparently, of the fact that it's, y'know, not a federal law.

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Message 25 of 1639 (754332)
03-25-2015 11:31 PM


Things Ted Cruz Doesn't Know, Part 2
Speaking to the Texas Tribune on Tuesday, Cruz said that contemporary global warming alarmists are the equivalent of the flat-Earthers.
You know it used to be it is accepted scientific wisdom the Earth is flat, and this heretic named Galileo was branded a denier, he said.
There are so many fish in that barrel there's no room for the water.

  
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Message 76 of 1639 (757287)
05-06-2015 8:13 PM


Things Ben Carson Doesn't Know
Apparently the President can ignore the Supreme Court, because Constitution, so there.
We have to understand how the Constitution works. The president is required to, you know, carry out the law of the land. The laws of the land come from the legislative branch. So if the legislative branch creates a law, or changes the law, the executive branch has responsibility to carry that out. It doesn’t say they have a responsibility to carry out a judicial law. And that’s something that we need to talk about.
He's no rocket scientist ...

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Message 81 of 1639 (757297)
05-07-2015 12:12 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by Faith
05-06-2015 11:43 PM


Re: Things Ben Carson Doesn't Know
Of course you're very conveniently ignoring his distinction between the roles of the legislature versus the court, the legitimate roles being lawmaking versus interpretation, so that if the court instead makes laws, which is what they've been doing for decades under the guise of interpretation, NOBODY has to obey them.
Ignoring it? I quoted it. It's bullshit. The U.S, like the rest of the English-speaking world, has a common-law system in which case law is ... well, law. And of course it's binding on the executive, that's part of the principle of the rule of law. But if you and Ben Carson don't think it should be, then is it OK if (for example) Obama ignores National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius as it applies to Medicaid expansion? 'Cos I bet he'd like to, and it's your opinion that "NOBODY has to obey them". Who needs the judicial branch anyway? Checks and balances, pfft.

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Message 84 of 1639 (757300)
05-07-2015 12:26 AM
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05-07-2015 12:15 AM


Re: Things Ben Carson Doesn't Know
ABE: You mention case law and I'm sorry I'm not more up on this but I have some memory of case law's being a recent imposition on the practice of Law ...
Recent? Yeah, it's only been how the common-law system has worked since the reign of King Henry II, so it's one of those new-fangled twelfth-century innovations that'll be here today and gone tomorrow.

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Message 86 of 1639 (757306)
05-07-2015 12:54 AM
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05-07-2015 12:32 AM


Re: Things Ben Carson Doesn't Know
Let me help you with that.
Henry II developed the practice of sending judges from his own central court to hear the various disputes throughout the country. His judges would resolve disputes on an ad hoc basis according to what they interpreted the customs to be. The king's judges would then return to London and often discuss their cases and the decisions they made with the other judges. These decisions would be recorded and filed. In time, a rule, known as stare decisis (also commonly known as precedent) developed, whereby a judge would be bound to follow the decision of an earlier judge; he was required to adopt the earlier judge's interpretation of the law and apply the same principles promulgated by that earlier judge if the two cases had similar facts to one another. Once judges began to regard each other's decisions to be binding precedent, the pre-Norman system of local customs and law varying in each locality was replaced by a system that was (at least in theory, though not always in practice) common throughout the whole country, hence the name "common law." [...] In common law systems, a single decided case is binding common law [...] under the principle of stare decisis.

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Message 88 of 1639 (757308)
05-07-2015 1:19 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by Faith
05-07-2015 12:59 AM


Re: Things Ben Carson Doesn't Know
No.
Here's Blackstone on case law and stare decis: "For it is an established rule to abide by former precedents, where the same points come again in litigation; as well to keep the scale of justice even and steady, and not liable to waver with every new judge's opinion; as also because the law in that case being solemnly declared and determined, what before was uncertain, and perhaps indifferent, is now become a permanent rule. [...] The doctrine of the law then is this: that precedents and rules must be followed."
This is how things have worked for the last eight centuries or so. It's probably too late to change it now, and why would you want to? In favor of what? That the President can ignore judicial review and do as he pleases, as Carson suggests?
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Message 90 of 1639 (757512)
05-09-2015 9:42 PM


Huckabee Discovers Group He Hasn't Offended Yet, Offends Them
So, Huckabee started off with "I hear our current president say he wants Christians to get off their high horse so we can make nice with radical jihadists". Now, so far this is the sort of halfwitted lie that any Republican might tell after he's undergone the standard process for removing every last scrap of human decency from his body.
And yet as we know, malevolent falsehood is never quite so sweet as when it's tinged with gratuitous racism, so Huckabee continued as follows: "I wonder if he can watch a western from the ‘50s and be able to figure out who the good guys and the bad guys really are."
Now Native Americans are pissed at him.

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Message 94 of 1639 (757531)
05-10-2015 1:06 AM
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Re: Huckabee Discovers Group He Hasn't Offended Yet, Offends Them
vIf so that simply shows once again how ignorant Huckabee, all his staff and his supporters are since quite a few of the "good guy" cowboys always wore black like Hoot Gibson and Zoro and Lash Larue.

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Message 102 of 1639 (758262)
05-23-2015 2:13 AM


Things Rand Paul Doesn't Know
Maybe I should cross-post this to Loony Of The Week.

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Message 133 of 1639 (759978)
06-16-2015 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by Diomedes
06-16-2015 1:01 PM


Re: The Donald is in!
Let joy be unconfined.

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Message 145 of 1639 (760033)
06-16-2015 10:04 PM
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06-16-2015 1:01 PM


Re: The Donald is in!

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Message 146 of 1639 (760050)
06-17-2015 1:29 AM


Oh My
Here's the full text of Trump's announcement speech. I hope you all enjoy it as much as I did.

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