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Author | Topic: Is the Bible the inerrant word of God? Or is it the words of men? | |||||||||||||||||||
PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
The problem is, Faith, that you put your worldview ahead of everything, to the point that you engage in frequent misrepresentation. Whether this misrepresentation is intentional lying or simply a strong delusion is hard to tell, but it is undeniable.
quote: In fact I pointed out that the article on Mark denied that the author was an eyewitness, and even that the Gospel was entirely accurate, accepting the words of Papias, as transmitted by Eusebius. I even told Gollfly that i thought that his criticism was unfair. The pride I referred to was referring to a different arrival altogether, and was about the claim to have a special understanding of the Bible - a claim not backed up in any way by the article itself. I guess that you could respond to that by admitting that the criticisms had some validity.
quote: It's just a lie that you tell yourself, exalting yourself while rejecting the words of the Bible. It is pride and self-worship. Believe it if you must, but bragging about is is no sort of argument - and you'd be a fool to use it as such. The more so since it is easily seen to be false.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: You do realise that that doesn't make sense? That even with maximised genetic variation before the flood you would still be limited to 2 alleles per individual at any given locus?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: I'm afraid that that is - at absolute best - implausible speculation lacking any positive evidence. Or to put it another way, a desperate excuse for clinging to belief in spite of the evidence.
quote: More accurately there is no viable explanation for them given the assumptions of YEC. That is why we conclude that the bottleneck did not occur. We have the evidence and you do not.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Calling your worldview "GOD's" doesn't make it so.
quote: And a clear example of how the Bible is flawed, in that it encourages such bad behaviour. Would you really say that it was intended to give those that twist and misrepresent the Bible an excuse to exalt themselves? And can you see that it does?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Of course you can't see it because you are blind to so many things you don't want to see. But claiming to be special and better than normal people is as clear an example of pride as you can get. Except perhaps, for boasting about it and expecting people to believe you. And that's what you're defending.
quote: I'd rather try Christianity. And i don't consider that worth my time.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
I can understand why you would hope for the end of reason. Reason is your enemy. One you call "unforgivable" and "evil"/
For instance - while you may not like it - the "best" reasoning for the Trinity isn't that good. The Bible simply isn't clear on the issue.
quote: As opposed to only self-appointed experts who say things you like ? Or is it that you claim sole authority to "appoint" experts ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Unfortunately you are very poor at reading and understanding. That is one of your problems. And claiming "spiritual discernment" to try to pretend you are right is just arrogant boasting.
quote: If they were actual demonstrable facts it would not be. If they're not - or worse - obviously untrue - why would you expect agreement ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Is it ? You'd think that if that was God's intent we'd find rather better supporting evidence for the Bible in other histories and in archaeology.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Narcissism is never an appealing trait, and you carry it to such extremes.
But please stop whining that nobody shares your own ludicrously high opinion of yourself.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
In other words Christianity is a religion of dogma, not history.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: The point is that it is not supportable by evidence and reason. It has to be assumed. Even the idea that it is based on revelation is dogma. If investigation finds that your "HISTORY" is myth and legend - which you dogmatically believe despite the evidence - then what is the point of the claim that Christianity is a religion of "HISTORY" ? What makes it better than any other religion with myths and legends ?
quote: Why DON'T you bother to think things through ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Faith, are you seriously claiming that Islam and Buddhism teach that everyone will end up in Hell ? Or are you just claiming that they can't keep people out of Hell because they aren't Christianity ? And if neither of those, just what are you saying ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
In other words your argument is just begging the question. You can't prove that Christianity is better than rival religions by just assuming that it's true.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
So Christianity is "different" because it's the only religion to offer a "solution" to a "problem it invented. That's not exactly a useful difference if you're trying to claim that Christianity is better than other religions.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: But they DO have solutions to "going to Hell". As you know. You just claim that they don't work. Because of a "problem" that Christianity invented.
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