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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
And like always, without fail, my opponents NEVER EVER acknowledge that I'm right but insist they are right and yet I'm criticized and called arrogant for thinking I'm right. Go figure.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Can't wait to see Faiths sources
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Don't remember where I got it. Maybe I'm wrong and he's not but it sure stuck in my head from somewhere.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
yet I'm criticized and called arrogant for thinking I'm right That's not what you are being criticized for. So yes, you are wrong again.Je Suis Charlie Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Don't remember where I got it. Maybe I'm wrong and he's not but it sure stuck in my head from somewhere. Exhibit A.Je Suis Charlie Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The source will turn up, maybe you'll run across it yourself. There is no reason for me to make it up, I heard it somewhere.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
The source will turn up, maybe you'll run across it yourself. There is no reason for me to make it up, I heard it somewhere. I spent a considerable effort looking. I did find people accusing Alan of making harsh statements about gays and sodomy. At this point, I'm not spending any more effort trying to back up your recollection.
I heard it somewhere And having heard it somewhere, you repeat it here as the truth, because, your having heard is "somewhere" is our assurance that it must be true. And of course the same can be said for Chris' anti-Catholic theories which you have judged to be accurate before doing your research. Nobody should ever accuse you of listening or reading critically. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Je Suis Charlie Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You're right you're right you're right, mea culpa. I went back to hear the excerpt of Pinto which is where I thought I might have gotten the idea and there Pinto is saying that Gomes, a professor at Harvard, not Kurschner, had come out as homosexual.
The Pintonian Inquisition: Scholarship or McCarthyism? | Christian Research Network Under Excerpt #3, the part about Gomes starts about 1:30. So the ONLY point Pinto was making about Kurschner was that he chose to learn textual criticism from such a liberal institution as Harvard Divinity School, so liberal that it even teaches that homosexuality can be justified from the Bible.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined:
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There is no reason for me to make it up, There are two, off the top of my head: selective attention and confirmation bias.The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
See post above. I had NO reason to make it up, I just misheard it.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined:
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I wrote that post before you corrected yourself. But I take on board your correction.
The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I wrote that post before you corrected yourself. But I take on board your correction. I don't think her correction invalidates what you wrote. Faith was predisposed not only to hear what she wanted to hear despite it not being said, but she was also predisposed to believe what she wanted to believe. Even had Pinto made the accusation, it should still be backed up. So much for Faith's claimed Pinto expertise. Pinto's comments are simply full of venom and McCarthyism. The correct way to show that Alan holds liberal views is to cite some of them. I'll note that Pinto at least had the decency to back away from his comments, although his 'apology' was of the 'I'm sorry if you felt offended" type.Je Suis Charlie Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Why would I *want* to hear or believe that Kurschner was gay? It makes absolutely no difference to the point Pinto was making about how the education offered at Harvard Divinity School is so liberal they teach that homosexuality is biblically justified so that anyone seeking out such an education must have liberal leanings.
I think it's YOU who WANTS to hear and believe that's what I would want to hear and believe. You are WAY out of line. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Why would I *want* to hear or believe that Kurschner was gay? It makes absolutely no difference to the point Pinto was making Wait, I note a convenient omission from the last time you identified Pinto's point -- convenient, in that it does not include the motive I read in your previous post. So let's go back to that post and review it for hints at your motive. From Exhibit B or Message 263.
So the ONLY point Pinto was making about Kurschner was that he chose to learn textual criticism from such a liberal institution as Harvard Divinity School Which is pretty much what I've been saying all along. The point of citing Harvard's liberalness was to tar Kurshner with it. Alan and others rightly objected to that, and rightly so, because none of the tar reflects Kurshner's views in any way. Let's see what else you said on the matter...
Now it turns out that Kurschner has revealed himself to be gay, which explains the whole thing, Actually it turns out that nothing (other than your BS mindset) was explained. Kurschner has revealed no such thing. There is no reason to believe that Alan is gay. You accepted that Kurshner is gay because it fits with your supposed reading of Pinto's point. A point which according to some of your own posts seems pretty close to my own reading. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Je Suis Charlie Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
The problem is that you mishear things and then fight to the death insisting that it's the absolute truth.
I had NO reason to make it up, I just misheard it.
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