Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 64 (9163 total)
2 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,411 Year: 3,668/9,624 Month: 539/974 Week: 152/276 Day: 26/23 Hour: 2/4


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham
NoNukes
Inactive Member


Message 477 of 824 (719605)
02-15-2014 7:14 PM
Reply to: Message 460 by saab93f
02-15-2014 5:25 AM


Re: genetics
You said that it is only a minority that denies science but isn't it actually so that 40 percent of Americans believe that everything was created in 6 literal days according to Gilgamesh...Genesis?
Source please?
I've see numbers more like this:
46% Americans Believe In Creationism According To Latest Gallup Poll | HuffPost Religion
Forty six percent Americans believed in creationism, 32 percent believed in theistic evolution and 15 percent believed in evolution without any divine intervention.
I'd argue that only the 32 per cent are actually science deniers.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

This message is a reply to:
 Message 460 by saab93f, posted 02-15-2014 5:25 AM saab93f has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 528 by saab93f, posted 02-16-2014 5:43 AM NoNukes has not replied

  
NoNukes
Inactive Member


Message 587 of 824 (724961)
04-23-2014 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 585 by Faith
04-23-2014 8:03 AM


Is There in Truth No Beauty? was Re: Ken Ham Still Stupid
...but attributed to Ham it has unfortunate implications.
Ham would have been best advised to have kept this mouth shut about this rather difficult (for him personally) and completely understandable move by the Smithsonian; receiving and displaying a donated nearly complete T-Rex skeleton.
With the proper attributions, isn't Ham's position still a bit difficult? Ham has a museum full of fake dinosaurs posed in made up situations that cannot be justified by the Bible [1], and he complains about the acquisition of the most complete real T-rex skeleton ever found. Isn't Ham's Ark, being subsidized by the state of Kentucky, the 5th poorest state in the union?
And then there is the "we're not racists, we hate everybody" crap straight from Ham's web page:
quote:
Some of these atheist bloggers claim we are racist because we discuss that certain people in Africa are descended from Noah’s son Ham. But they fail to explain that we teach that many different people groups descended from Ham, including the Chinese.
The T-Rex will attract tons of visitors to the Smithsonian. I am definitely going first chance I get.
[1] I am aware that some people believe that the Bible depicts men being contemporaneous with dinosaurs. I find that to be a stretch, but riding them Flintstone style as is shown in Ham's museum? Please. This crap does much harm to Christianity.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

This message is a reply to:
 Message 585 by Faith, posted 04-23-2014 8:03 AM Faith has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 588 by Faith, posted 04-23-2014 2:12 PM NoNukes has replied

  
NoNukes
Inactive Member


Message 589 of 824 (725052)
04-23-2014 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 588 by Faith
04-23-2014 2:12 PM


Re: Is There in Truth No Beauty? was Re: Ken Ham Still Stupid
it just bothered me that that particular quote was attributed to him.
It's best to be accurate, however my point is that Ham actually said much stupider stuff. What is the point of complaining about a Natural History Museum accepting a donated T-Rex?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

This message is a reply to:
 Message 588 by Faith, posted 04-23-2014 2:12 PM Faith has not replied

  
NoNukes
Inactive Member


Message 594 of 824 (749394)
02-04-2015 7:20 AM
Reply to: Message 593 by Faith
02-04-2015 5:17 AM


Re: Ham To Sue For Divinely Appointed Tax Rebates
Now it turns out that Kurschner has revealed himself to be gay, which explains the whole thing,
You are right Faith!. Given that the issue is taxes, Dr Adequate should have cited 'Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's'.
Or maybe "Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities".
and it is wrong to apply his teaching to governments and nations and states and how we are to deal with them.
Yeah, good point. Except Jesus had something to say about government and nations too.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

This message is a reply to:
 Message 593 by Faith, posted 02-04-2015 5:17 AM Faith has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024