A measured look at a difficult situation

And like always, without fail, my opponents NEVER EVER acknowledge that I'm right but insist they are right and yet I'm criticized and called arrogant for thinking I'm right. Go figure.

Can't wait to see Faiths sources

Don't remember where I got it. Maybe I'm wrong and he's not but it sure stuck in my head from somewhere.

That's not what you are being criticized for. So yes, you are wrong again.

Exhibit A.

The source will turn up, maybe you'll run across it yourself. There is no reason for me to make it up, I heard it somewhere.

I spent a considerable effort looking. I did find people accusing Alan of making harsh statements about gays and sodomy. At this point, I'm not spending any more effort trying to back up your recollection. And having heard it somewhere, you repeat it here as the truth, because, your having heard is "somewhere" is our assurance that it must be true. And of course the same can be said for Chris' anti-Catholic theories which you have judged to be accurate before doing your research.Nobody should ever accuse you of listening or reading critically. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

You're right you're right you're right, mea culpa. I went back to hear the excerpt of Pinto which is where I thought I might have gotten the idea and there Pinto is saying that Gomes, a professor at Harvard, not Kurschner, had come out as homosexual.The Pintonian Inquisition: Scholarship or McCarthyism? | Christian Research NetworkUnder Excerpt #3, the part about Gomes starts about 1:30.So the ONLY point Pinto was making about Kurschner was that he chose to learn textual criticism from such a liberal institution as Harvard Divinity School, so liberal that it even teaches that homosexuality can be justified from the Bible.

There are two, off the top of my head: selective attention and confirmation bias.

See post above. I had NO reason to make it up, I just misheard it.

I wrote that post before you corrected yourself. But I take on board your correction.

I don't think her correction invalidates what you wrote. Faith was predisposed not only to hear what she wanted to hear despite it not being said, but she was also predisposed to believe what she wanted to believe. Even had Pinto made the accusation, it should still be backed up. So much for Faith's claimed Pinto expertise.Pinto's comments are simply full of venom and McCarthyism. The correct way to show that Alan holds liberal views is to cite some of them. I'll note that Pinto at least had the decency to back away from his comments, although his 'apology' was of the 'I'm sorry if you felt offended" type.

Why would I *want* to hear or believe that Kurschner was gay? It makes absolutely no difference to the point Pinto was making about how the education offered at Harvard Divinity School is so liberal they teach that homosexuality is biblically justified so that anyone seeking out such an education must have liberal leanings.I think it's YOU who WANTS to hear and believe that's what I would want to hear and believe. You are WAY out of line. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Wait, I note a convenient omission from the last time you identified Pinto's point -- convenient, in that it does not include the motive I read in your previous post. So let's go back to that post and review it for hints at your motive.From Exhibit B or Message 263. Which is pretty much what I've been saying all along. The point of citing Harvard's liberalness was to tar Kurshner with it. Alan and others rightly objected to that, and rightly so, because none of the tar reflects Kurshner's views in any way.Let's see what else you said on the matter... Actually it turns out that nothing (other than your BS mindset) was explained. Kurschner has revealed no such thing. There is no reason to believe that Alan is gay.You accepted that Kurshner is gay because it fits with your supposed reading of Pinto's point. A point which according to some of your own posts seems pretty close to my own reading.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

The problem is that you mishear things and then fight to the death insisting that it's the absolute truth.