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Faith 
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Message 271 of 289 (749515)
02-05-2015 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 270 by ringo
02-05-2015 12:18 PM


Except I did no such thing as "fight to the death" about this because it did not make one scintilla of difference to anything I was saying,.

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Larni
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Message 272 of 289 (749519)
02-05-2015 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by Faith
02-05-2015 12:54 PM


Faith, if you approach is to defend what you mis hear and refuse to read anything that might contradict the thing you mis heard exactly how accurate a conclusion do you expect to arrive at?

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Faith 
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Message 273 of 289 (749520)
02-05-2015 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by Larni
02-05-2015 1:09 PM


I don't recall defending it because it makes absolutely no difference to my opinion. If I did defend it that came after people were accusing me of lying or something but I don't remember, I wasn't lying so I'd defend it but otherwise it has no bearing whatever on anything I've said here, the accusations are just the usual unfounded stuff I get thrown at me.

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NoNukes
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Message 274 of 289 (749556)
02-05-2015 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 273 by Faith
02-05-2015 1:13 PM


I don't recall defending it because it makes absolutely no difference to my opinion. If I did defend it that came after people were accusing me of lying or something but I don't remember
No need to rely on your memory. Our entire discussion is archived right here. Nobody accused you of lying.

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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Faith 
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Message 275 of 289 (749557)
02-05-2015 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 274 by NoNukes
02-05-2015 4:53 PM


You did accuse me of lying about it not mattering whether Kurschner is gay or not, and I certainly deny that because it DOESN'T matter, I have NO interest in whether he is gay or not*, I MERELY MISHEARD PINTO ON THAT AUDIO. But you among others have made a big false sleazy deal about nothing here.
ABE: *And neither does Chris Pinto, whose ONLY point was that it's odd for a putatively conservative Christian to study textual criticism at very liberal Harvard Divinity School.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Message 276 of 289 (749560)
02-05-2015 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 275 by Faith
02-05-2015 4:59 PM


You did accuse me of lying about it not mattering whether Kurschner is gay or not
I said you were wrong when you said it did not matter, and that you were inclined to believe that Kurschner is gay.
When I get to the point of believing you are lying, I won't mince words. But in this case I did point out using only your own words and only after you admitted that Alan had not said he was gay, that the belief that Alan was gay was consistent with your mindset about Pinto.
Given the timing, my opinion could not be the accusation of lying that got you all defensive. Rather than assume you were lying about this last point, I'm assuming you are just mistaken.

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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Faith 
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Message 277 of 289 (749562)
02-05-2015 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 276 by NoNukes
02-05-2015 5:09 PM


I said you were wrong when you said it did not matter, and that you were inclined to believe that Kurschner is gay.
That is enough of a sleazy accusation, why split hairs about the term "lying," it amounts to the same thing. I am not the slightest bit "inclined" to believe anything about Kurschner, that's just your sleazy imagination that wants to accuse me of something.
When I get to the point of believing you are lying, I won't mince words.
I guess you're content with sleazy innuendoes. I don't make much of a distinction in this case.
But in this case I did point out using only your own words and only after you admitted that Alan had not said he was gay, that the belief that Alan was gay was consistent with your mindset about Pinto.
Blech. Thanks again for the supposedly-not-a-lie-big-fat-suspicious-innuendo based on nothing in my words except whatever you hallucinated there.
Given the timing, my opinion could not be the accusation of lying that got you all defensive. Rather than assume you were lying about this last point, I'm assuming you are just mistaken.
Mistaken about my own inclination? Thanks a lot. This is all nothing but Ad Hominem, you have no right to be saying such things.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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NoNukes
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Message 278 of 289 (749563)
02-05-2015 5:22 PM
Reply to: Message 277 by Faith
02-05-2015 5:17 PM


Mistaken about my own inclination? Thanks a lot. This is all nothing but Ad Hominem, you have no right to be saying such things.
I have all the right I need. But perhaps you can get Percy to say otherwise. Feel free to post an official complaint.
Be sure to tell Percy that about how the supposed cause came after the effect.
Edited by NoNukes, : C vs A

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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Faith 
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Message 279 of 289 (749564)
02-05-2015 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 278 by NoNukes
02-05-2015 5:22 PM


NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO INSIST ON WHAT SOMEONE ELSE THINKS WHEN THEY KEEP DENYING IT. I MISHEARD THE AUDIO, and there is nothing more to it. You are out of line and have been out of line for post after post trying to hang something on me out of your own crabbed imagination.
I wouldn't appeal to Percy if my life depended on it.

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NoNukes
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Message 280 of 289 (749624)
02-06-2015 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 279 by Faith
02-05-2015 5:26 PM


Wah, wah..... wah.

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 281 of 289 (749631)
02-06-2015 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 277 by Faith
02-05-2015 5:17 PM


I guess you're content with sleazy innuendoes.
Yeah, at least you explicitly call us IDIOTS.

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Faith 
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Message 282 of 289 (749643)
02-06-2015 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 281 by New Cat's Eye
02-06-2015 1:49 PM


I don't tell you that you are thinking something you claim not to be thinking.

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ringo
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Message 283 of 289 (749675)
02-07-2015 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 271 by Faith
02-05-2015 12:54 PM


Faith writes:
Except I did no such thing as "fight to the death"....
She said as she fought to the death the suggestion that she was fighting to the death.

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NoNukes
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Message 284 of 289 (749684)
02-07-2015 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 282 by Faith
02-06-2015 5:21 PM


I don't tell you that you are thinking something you claim not to be thinking.
Obviously I cannot tell you what you are thinking. Statements that you 'want' to believe something are really euphemisms about your predilection to accept the point Pinto is making as valid. And you yourself said that Alan acknowledging that he was homosexual explained the whole thing.
So yeah, you have a mindset that accepts Pinto's rant as revealing something about Kurschner's opinions on homosexuality when it clearly does not. You accept Pinto's 'proof' that Alan is liberal when his rant is the purest of McCarthyism, and you thought you heard something that was not even said, that explains 'everything.'
Nobody but you is going to mishear what you did not hear and then claim I could find if I searched. And quite frankly, even if Pinto did say it, I would check elsewhere before I believed it. Not you though. Because you're our self proclaimed an expert on Chris Pinto.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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Faith 
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Message 285 of 289 (749699)
02-07-2015 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 284 by NoNukes
02-07-2015 12:16 PM


So yeah, you have a mindset that accepts Pinto's rant as revealing something about Kurschner's opinions on homosexuality when it clearly does not.
Pinto said nothing whatever about "Kurschner's opinions on homosexuality" NOTHING WHATEVER, so I had no "mindset" that accepted any such idea. There was one and only one reason for mentioning homosexuality and that was that the liberalism of Harvard Divinity School can be demonstrated by the fact that they teach that homosexuality does not violate the Bible.
You accept Pinto's 'proof' that Alan is liberal when his rant is the purest of McCarthyism, and you thought you heard something that was not even said, that explains 'everything.'
There is something wrong with your thinking here that I think deserves the title "McCarthyism" against Pinto, some actual need of yours to misinterpret what he said and accuse accuse accuse. If it had been Kurschner rather than Gomes who admitted to being homosexual then that would rather neatly explain his interest in Harvard Divinity School, though that was just a casual remark I made that you decided to blow up into something huge. As it is, his interest remains something to wonder about but certainly indicative of a liberal mindset as no conservative Christian would be likely to expose themselves to that sort of textual critical teaching.
You are out of line, you've been out of line and apparently that's where you like to be.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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