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jar
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Message 815 of 824 (749890)
02-09-2015 11:06 PM
Reply to: Message 814 by Faith
02-09-2015 10:55 PM


Re: The Bible says God does wrench a whole society into ruins even when there is no reaso
Faith writes:
Wilberforce who was responsible for England's giving up the slave trade, argued against slavery on the basis of his Christian principles. John Newton, who had been an officer on a slave ship, gave it up and preached against it when he converted to Christ. The abolitionists in America made their case based on the Bible
And there were Christians using the Bible to justify and support slavery at the same time.
So where is the evidence? Where is a government document that says "We outlaw slavery based on the Bible"?
The US Constitution outlawed slave importation but not based on the Bible.
The Emancipation Proclamation outlawed some slavery under specific conditions but not based on the Bible.
Economics, secular humanism and politics did lead to ending direct slavery but it would take over another 100 years to begin the effort to grant civil rights to African Americans and again, religion, particularly Christianity, supported both sides of the struggle.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 817 of 824 (749892)
02-09-2015 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 816 by Faith
02-09-2015 11:11 PM


Re: The Bible says God does wrench a whole society into ruins even when there is no reaso
Faith writes:
The Constitution took a lot from the Bible it never acknowledged. Same with Western Civilization in general including the principles of the Enlightenment. All that grew out of the Christian mindset of the west.
You keep claiming such stuff yet never seem to support it with evidence.
So where is the evidence? Where is a government document that says "We outlaw slavery based on the Bible"?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 820 of 824 (749904)
02-10-2015 8:20 AM
Reply to: Message 819 by Faith
02-10-2015 5:37 AM


Re: Faith proves John Adams was not a seer.
Faith writes:
The idea of checks and balances is considered to be the constitutional answer to the Fall, recognizing that all humanity is subject to misusing power if put in that position. The Fall is clearly biblical, has no other source in human thought.
More utter nonsense straight from the apologists. Where is the evidence that the idea of checks and balances has any connection to any alleged Fall?
Where is the Biblical support for "The Fall"?
The Fall is most definitely simply the product of Christian marketing.
You are just once again showing that y'all will makeup anything to support your fantasies.

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