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Message 8 of 313 (749943)
02-10-2015 2:39 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Faith
02-10-2015 1:02 PM


Faith writes:
He knows that the people have voted against gay marriage and that their will should prevail over the misbegotten rulings of the Supreme Court that call the will of the people unconstitutional.
So you don't think the Constitution should be the supreme law of the land?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 14 of 313 (749961)
02-10-2015 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Faith
02-10-2015 3:30 PM


I made neither an accusation nor a claim. I asked a question. My question follows naturally from your stated position. Either you think the Constitution should be the supreme law of the land or you think states have the right to disregard it. This question doesn't call for an essay response, it's yes or no. Do you think the Constitution should be the supreme law of the land.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 18 of 313 (749973)
02-10-2015 5:43 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Faith
02-10-2015 5:07 PM


Faith writes:
Of course I think it should.
Good.
What do you think should happen to state laws that run afoul of the Constitution?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 28 of 313 (749994)
02-10-2015 9:51 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Faith
02-10-2015 8:47 PM


Wonderful. That's what we call non-responsive.
Just in case you're interested in answering the question I actually asked, I'll repeat it: What do you think should happen to state laws that run afoul of the the Constitution?
Feel free to continue to ignore it if you like.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 30 of 313 (749996)
02-10-2015 10:17 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by jar
02-10-2015 9:53 PM


Re: you really haven't read the Constitution have you Faith
I'm pretty sure she just means she doesn't like what they're doing. But saying they are acting unconstitutionally sounds better.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 31 of 313 (749997)
02-10-2015 10:19 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by marc9000
02-10-2015 8:53 PM


marc9000 writes:
The best solution to that problem if it's likely to happen, is stay with tradition, and LEAVE IT ALONE!
Yeah, if only it weren't for that pesky Fourteenth Amendment screwing everything up, giving everyone equal protection of the laws.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 65 of 313 (750075)
02-11-2015 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Faith
02-11-2015 1:48 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
Faith writes:
It used to be the case before the Fourteenth Amendment.
No. It was never the case that states could override or ignore the Constitution. The only difference the Fourteenth Amendment makes is that more of the protections of the Constitution are extended to the states than was the case before. States never had authority to ignore the Constitution.
There really is no end to your ignorance, is there?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 83 of 313 (750122)
02-11-2015 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Faith
02-11-2015 2:14 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
You remember how businesses used to be able to refuse to serve blacks?
You remember how there used to be separate drinking fountains for blacks?
You remember how there used to be all kinds of laws that interfered with blacks being able to vote?
You remember how blacks weren't permitted to buy houses in some parts of town?
You remember how there used to be separate schools for blacks?
You remember how some states had laws prohibiting blacks and white from marrying one another?
All of these injustices have been reduced or eliminated because of the Fourteenth Amendment. Some people, such as yourself, would like to continue to perpetrate some of those very same injustices on gays. Fortunately, most of the country has realized that's wrong, leaving you and your little band of like-minded nuts to pull hair and rend garments about how unfair it is that you have to treat everyone fairly and not just the people you like.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 87 of 313 (750130)
02-11-2015 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Faith
02-11-2015 3:54 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
Faith writes:
We don't give special rights to sins.
We don't give special rights to gays, either. We only give them the same rights everyone else has, the right to marry the person they love.
Faith writes:
That's called in the Bible "calling evil good and good evil" in Isaiah 5:20. This is what GOD says, and what YOU say doesn't count against what God says.
You love to crow about what the bible says, and how so many other people's beliefs are non-biblical. Here's a question for you. Where in the bible does it say it's a sin to bake a cake for a gay wedding? Give me a quote along with chapter and verse.
Also, in this country, we don't base our laws on what anyone's god says. That IS in the Constitution.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 91 of 313 (750134)
02-11-2015 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Faith
02-11-2015 3:54 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
Oh, by the way, the reason people keep calling you a bigot isn't because you are anti-gay (although that would be enough). It's because you insist on equating gays with "pedophiles or prostitutes or cheats and liars and thieves and murderers." So long as you do that, not only are you a bigot, you're a rather disgusting excuse for a human being, too.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 92 of 313 (750135)
02-11-2015 4:11 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Faith
02-11-2015 4:07 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
But no chapter and verse, I notice.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 93 of 313 (750136)
02-11-2015 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Faith
02-11-2015 4:08 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
Some of it was, certainly not all of it.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 99 of 313 (750143)
02-11-2015 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by Faith
02-11-2015 4:17 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
I know your interpretation of the bible condemns homosexuality, but I didn't ask about that. I asked about baking a cake for a gay wedding.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 105 of 313 (750150)
02-11-2015 4:33 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Faith
02-11-2015 4:17 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
But no law in the US has enshrined that comment into law. Therefore, that's irrelevant.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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Message 108 of 313 (750155)
02-11-2015 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by Faith
02-11-2015 4:40 PM


Re: The jokes just keep coming
Except you didn't.
Baking a cake isn't participating in a ceremony. The cake isn't part of the ceremony, it's part of the afterparty.
Can I assume, then, that you have no biblical basis for not baking a cake?

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung

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