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Author Topic:   Chariots of God (Scripture & Photo Examined)
New Cat's Eye
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Message 91 of 1310 (751401)
03-02-2015 6:53 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by ScottRP
03-02-2015 5:46 PM


Clearly. you are not well-versed in spirit photography.
Show's what you know, ya dingus. I have a lot of experience with spirit photography.
I even believe in spirits. I just know that orbs are dust and not spirits.
I wish you were better-versed in basic communication.
Then you might be able to explain why you think what you do think. And then we could have a conversation.
But alas, your track record says otherwise.
Is it because you aren't trying? Why do you just blow everybody off?
Why start a conversation that you have no intention of actually participating in?

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jar
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Message 92 of 1310 (751405)
03-02-2015 8:06 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by ScottRP
03-02-2015 11:47 AM


Photographs do not lie. I speak the truth.
Too funny.
What evidence do you have that you speak the truth?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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AZPaul3
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Message 93 of 1310 (751406)
03-02-2015 8:14 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by ScottRP
03-02-2015 4:50 PM


Zooming Over Head
I could be Poe in reverse.
ahem ... Yes, well, that may very well be the case.

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Faith 
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Message 94 of 1310 (751407)
03-02-2015 8:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by ScottRP
02-26-2015 1:42 PM


Hello Scott,
I don't think you are a "looney," but I do think you are letting yourself get too deep into trying to justify belief in the existence of spirits by technology. We know of their reality from the Bible, and sometimes we have experiences that may or may not reflect that reality in our own personal lives, but I don't see any reason for us to spend much time trying to convince others of them. The Bible is a guide for Christians to live the life Christ has called us to, and it can get us way off course to spend too much time on things like spirit beings. However, it does sound like you have had a lot of such experience and I hope the advice won't be offensive if I say that I were you I'd consider regarding ALL of it as NOT from God and something demonic you need to get out of your life, through prayer and the help of other believers. I've had to deal with some similar things in my own life since I became a Christian.
I didn't know that those circular objects in some photos that are often presented as spiritual beings can be explained as dust particles, as Cat Sci has shown, but it makes sense. I've seen some that glow in a way that does look unearthly, but I never could understand why a spiritual being would appear as an orb instead of, as, well, a spiritual being of some recognizable sort. The ones I've seen are purported to be demonic presences, such as at an event where Christians would expect such presences, for instance because of demonic messages given at the event. I don't think I've seen them claimed to be angels of God before. '
Edited by Faith, : to add "belief in" which is what I meant in the first place

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Larni
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Message 95 of 1310 (751417)
03-03-2015 4:17 AM


I agree with Faith.
Why are you jumping to the conclusion that what you see is not demonic in nature? As Faith points out, if it was a Heavenly entity, why not manifest as something more meaningful to a believer?
All the best.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

  
AZPaul3
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Message 96 of 1310 (751418)
03-03-2015 6:41 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by ThinAirDesigns
03-02-2015 6:17 PM


Who's Who Online
...#3 return for a Google search on that name...
Good grief! Hilarious.
What's next? An article in Wiki[citation needed]?

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 97 of 1310 (751437)
03-03-2015 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by Faith
03-02-2015 8:32 PM


I didn't know that those circular objects in some photos that are often presented as spiritual beings can be explained as dust particles, as Cat Sci has shown, but it makes sense.
These orbs can easily be created by introducing dust into the atmosphere in the field of view of the camera.
The more dust, the more orbs you get. That doesn't mean that every single orb must be from dust, but given a random orb it is most likely that it is just a piece of dust. And there's no way to tell that it isn't.
Plus, given that the phenomenon happens so much more underwater, if they're all spirits then there must be a brazillion spirits living in our oceans. But that don't make sense.
I'd consider regarding ALL of it as NOT from God and something demonic you need to get out of your life,
Oh yeah. Take the image I posted in Message 3. If you zoom in on the colorful spirit orb in the middle near the bottom, you can clearly see it displaying a pentagram. Obviously this is demonic:

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Faith 
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Message 98 of 1310 (751441)
03-03-2015 10:36 AM
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03-03-2015 10:01 AM


However, I meant giving up the whole idea that orbs are spiritual beings at all, realize that all the spiritual experiences he mentioned are likely demonic and just give up the whole thing as a monumental deception and waste of time..
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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ThinAirDesigns
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Message 99 of 1310 (751451)
03-03-2015 11:16 AM
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03-03-2015 10:01 AM


Cat Sci writes:
...if they're all spirits then there must be a brazillion spirits living in our oceans. But that don't make sense.
Why does that not make sense?
JB

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ringo
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Message 100 of 1310 (751454)
03-03-2015 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by New Cat's Eye
03-03-2015 10:01 AM


Cat's Eye writes:
Plus, given that the phenomenon happens so much more underwater, if they're all spirits then there must be a brazillion spirits living in our oceans. But that don't make sense.
If you drown, your spirit will be in the ocean. If you die on land, it's ashes to ashes and dust to orbs.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 101 of 1310 (751460)
03-03-2015 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Faith
03-03-2015 10:36 AM


realize that all the spiritual experiences he mentioned are likely demonic
Yeah, I just proved that. Didn't you see the pentagram?

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 102 of 1310 (751461)
03-03-2015 12:03 PM
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03-03-2015 11:16 AM


Cat Sci writes:
...if they're all spirits then there must be a brazillion spirits living in our oceans. But that don't make sense.
Why does that not make sense?
There's really nobody down there for them to visit. I guess that'd have to be where they hide, or something.

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ScottRP
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Message 103 of 1310 (751471)
03-03-2015 12:27 PM


Halo
Catholic Information, "the Halo is symbolic of divinity and supreme power. Divinity means, of, or pertaining to God. The Holy Spirit is God, the third person of the Holy Trinity.
Notice how this photograph looks exactly like the Halo.
I believe that the Christian Halo can be found in scripture as the Spirit of God alighting and remaining upon Jesus.
The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit.
Mathew 3:16. When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him.
John 1:32. John testified saying, "I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him."
I believe that the Spirit of God alighting and remaining upon Jesus most likely appeared as a Christian Halo.
My Thoughts
The Spirit of God appears to be revealing to us through the Halo that He is the breathe of life given to all mankind in the very beginning by God.
Genesis 2:7. And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breathe of life; and man became a living being.
The term "Spirit" translates the Hebrew word ruah which in it's primary sense, means breathe, air, wind.
I believe that the breathe of life went into man's nostrils and is located over and throughout the brain giving us life. Hence, the Halo is over the head, representing the Spirit of God giving us life in this in this world. The breathe of life is connected to our spirits by the silver cord. When the silver cord is loosed, we are cut off from the breathe of life, the brain dies, we become disconnected from our bodies, and are no longer part of this visible world.
Ecclesiastes 12:6-7 Remember your Creator before the silver cord is loosed. Or the golden bowl broken, Or the pitcher shattered at the fountain, Or the wheel broken at the wheel. Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.
I believe that the Halo would be the Spirit of God's rightful place in revealing to us that He is the breathe of life given to all mankind in the very beginning by God and thus the Halo does not have to be limited to Christianity.

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Faith 
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Message 104 of 1310 (751472)
03-03-2015 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by New Cat's Eye
03-03-2015 12:00 PM


No, you supposedly "proved" that the orbs are demonic, but that is not what I was saying.

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NoNukes
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Message 105 of 1310 (751475)
03-03-2015 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Faith
03-03-2015 10:36 AM


realize that all the spiritual experiences he mentioned are likely demonic
Which spiritual experiences did he mention? I understand that you are not saying that the orbs are demonic.

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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