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ScottRP
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Message 106 of 1310 (751477)
03-03-2015 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Faith
03-03-2015 12:27 PM


God has given both the believer and known believer life through His Spirit. Both good and evil spirits travel through chariots of God.
The chariot itself is not evil. Angels travel in these chariots as well. I am discussing chariots of God here. Not the spirits traveling in them.

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ScottRP
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Message 107 of 1310 (751478)
03-03-2015 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Faith
03-03-2015 10:36 AM


This is false and a deterrent from the truth.

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NoNukes
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Message 108 of 1310 (751479)
03-03-2015 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by ScottRP
03-03-2015 12:27 PM


I believe that the Christian Halo can be found in scripture as the Spirit of God alighting and remaining upon Jesus.
The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit.
Yes, the Spirit of God is Biblical. But manifesting as a halo? That does not seem to be Biblical. The scriptures you posted certainly do not suggest any such thing. An internet search on the topic indicates that the shiny circle around people heads is just artistic license taken by some Christian artists.
Perhaps your life's work is just a Quixotic quest. That would be cause me to be sad for you.

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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Faith 
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Message 109 of 1310 (751483)
03-03-2015 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by NoNukes
03-03-2015 12:40 PM


Which spiritual experiences did he mention? I understand that you are not saying that the orbs are demonic.
Look at his link in Message 64, his claim for the superiority of his view because of his personal experiences in Message 66 and Message 68, and his mention of seeing "chariots" in Message 78.

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frako
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Message 110 of 1310 (751485)
03-03-2015 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by ScottRP
03-03-2015 12:50 PM


This is false and a deterrent from the truth.
A fundie against a fundie this should be entertaining.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 111 of 1310 (751486)
03-03-2015 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by ScottRP
03-03-2015 12:27 PM


Notice how this photograph looks exactly like the Halo.
They don't look like a Halo at all - there's nobody in front of them.
Halos never occur without somebody's head in front of them.
Did you notice Message 97 where I proved that if these are sprits then they must be demonic?

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 112 of 1310 (751487)
03-03-2015 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Faith
03-03-2015 12:27 PM


No, you supposedly "proved" that the orbs are demonic, but that is not what I was saying.
Huh? You're not making any sense.

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ScottRP
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Message 113 of 1310 (751488)
03-03-2015 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by NoNukes
03-03-2015 12:55 PM


The Spirit of God alighting and remaining upon Jesus does suggest that He most likely appeared as a Halo. Where else would the Spirit of God be alighting and remaining upon Jesus's body?

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Faith 
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Message 114 of 1310 (751490)
03-03-2015 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by New Cat's Eye
03-03-2015 1:11 PM


What I was saying was that ALL his experiences, including the idea that the orbs represent any kind of spiritual being, are deceptions, the whole concept probably being demonically inspired.

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ScottRP
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Message 115 of 1310 (751491)
03-03-2015 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by New Cat's Eye
03-03-2015 1:10 PM


What you are looking at is a photograph of the Spirit of God and He sometimes appears as a Halo above people's head.

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Faith 
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Message 116 of 1310 (751492)
03-03-2015 1:20 PM
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03-03-2015 1:13 PM


The Spirit of God alighting and remaining upon Jesus does suggest that He most likely appeared as a Halo. Where else would the Spirit of God be alighting and remaining upon Jesus's body?
All four biblical references to the Spirit's alighting upon Jesus describe the appearance of a dove, not a halo, most clearly in the following reference:
Luke 3:22: And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven...

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ScottRP
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Message 117 of 1310 (751494)
03-03-2015 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by Faith
03-03-2015 1:15 PM


And, what I was getting at is that this is false information and a deterrent from the truth.

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ScottRP
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From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 118 of 1310 (751496)
03-03-2015 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by Faith
03-03-2015 1:20 PM


The Holy Spirit had descended in His own form like a dove.

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Faith 
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Message 119 of 1310 (751497)
03-03-2015 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by ScottRP
03-03-2015 1:23 PM


And, what I was getting at is that this is false information and a deterrent from the truth.
The idea that all the experiences you are talking about could be deceptive is not "information," it's an interpretation based on my own knowledge and experience. You are free to take it or leave it, but not free to call it a "deterrent from the truth" without giving some sort of argument for that claim.

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Faith 
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Message 120 of 1310 (751498)
03-03-2015 1:28 PM
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03-03-2015 1:25 PM


The Holy Spirit had descended in His own form like a dove.
No idea what you are trying to say here. The scripture reference I gave says He appeared IN THE BODILY SHAPE OF a dove, which is not the shape of a halo.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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