Earth science curriculum tailored to fit wavering fundamentalists

Sorry, I misspoke. It's not that the Flood "explains" the iridium layer, it's that it can be explained in relation to the Flood.

As I said, I do what I can with what gets thrown at me. I don't expect to be able to answer everything that gets thrown at me but I have faith that it can be answered nevertheless.

No.

How can a recent flood produce an iridium layer that is associated with a layer of tektites that date to 65 million years before present?

Then describe for us a type of geologic formation that the Flood could not produce.

Well, not exactly -- I'm looking for valid science that can be explained to folk who have been sequestered from science. I expect them to use that knowledge to make up their own minds. They've had enough of other people making up their minds for them. I'm actually VERY happy to have a YEC proponent educate me as to the sorts of *scientifically valid* experiments that can be done demonstrating YEC.My 'curriculum' is going to be based on things that can be demonstrated. My family has had plenty of indoctrination in faith -- I'm separating myself from that through evidence and the impact due to that difference has been noticeable, even just so far.Currently I find the YEC evidence to be sorely lacking. Frankly I don't expect you to change that, but I'd sure like someone to step up and at least attempt to produce some observable evidence that they say stands up. To be blunt, every YEC argument I've found so far makes the common science look pretty damn good by comparison. All I see when I read the YEC internet sites is charlatans preying on the weak (or alternately, extremely ignorant folk pretending they know more than they do).You're welcome to step up, but I won't be involved in discussions that involve "it could happen" miracles -- only demonstrable science.JB

Yeah, that's the exact problem -- their arguments have no cohesion whatsoever.JB

Settling out of standing water isn't the only way layers could form. Layers form in the deltas of rivers. Water does sort sediments. Running water. There's a whole thread here on Walther's Law showing how layers are formed by rising sea water. There were also some experiments done that show sorting occurring in a tank, keep forgetting the experimenter's name. Bertolt? Berthault? Something like that.But I've argued out the Flood stuff for so long at EvC I really am not up to getting back into the whole thing, sorry. I just wanted to make that one comment about the iridium layer.Yes there are lots of different ideas about what the Flood would have done and I have my own. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I'm not asking about what is thrown at you. I'm asking you about what you are capable of envisioning.Can you think of anything at all that you wouldn't not be able to explain with the Flood?

What I can envision is irrelevant. There are many things that are not explained by the Flood that are nevertheless not in conflict with it either. So what.

All fine and dandy, but not a single thing you said there addresses my concern about your 'wave' theory (and least not in any way discernible by me). Hand waving is not something accepted in my science curriculum. Fair enough. And I am only interested in ideas that can be backed up by observation. Full stop.JB

I'm wondering if you can even bring yourself to think about a phenomenon that would, actually, be in conflict with the Flood.Apparently you cannot. And that's really fucked up.

Then your claims that you can envision a scenario where the flood can explain the K/T boundary is irrelevant.

My "wave" theory? It's just obvious that when the Flood waters were receding from the land mass there would have been very long waves continuing to wash up over the land with the tides and normal wave action, and waves deposit sand on beaches, so why not whatever other sediments were being carried in the water? In fact the patterns of deposition of the different sedimentary layers across the North American continent suggest that sort of deposition, some extending all the way across, some only across a few states. There's no reason to expect such disturbances after the rain stopped.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Rivers and standing waters do not sort tektites by their K/Ar ratios so that tektites with specific K/Ar ratios are found next to irridium layers.