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Author Topic:   Chariots of God (Scripture & Photo Examined)
Tangle
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Message 241 of 1310 (752254)
03-09-2015 6:17 PM
Reply to: Message 239 by ScottRP
03-09-2015 6:07 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
ScottRP writes:
If I could, I'd ride over in one of those chariots and show you myself.
I think you're finally getting the hang of what evidence is. Get back to us when you can.
Meanwhile, I'm afraid that the early diagnosis of 'loony' is confirmed.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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ScottRP
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Message 242 of 1310 (752256)
03-09-2015 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 241 by Tangle
03-09-2015 6:17 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
I was being humorous.

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ScottRP
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Message 243 of 1310 (752257)
03-09-2015 6:35 PM
Reply to: Message 240 by jar
03-09-2015 6:13 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
I suppose you want me to provide "evidence" of God as well.
Edited by ScottRP, : No reason given.

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frako
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Message 244 of 1310 (752258)
03-09-2015 6:40 PM
Reply to: Message 243 by ScottRP
03-09-2015 6:35 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
Well that would go a long way to convince an atheist any tangible objective evidence would do.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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Tangle
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Message 245 of 1310 (752259)
03-09-2015 6:42 PM
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03-09-2015 6:32 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
I was being humorous
Yeh, I recognised the attempt, but I wasn't - get back to us with evidence.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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jar
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Message 246 of 1310 (752261)
03-09-2015 6:55 PM
Reply to: Message 243 by ScottRP
03-09-2015 6:35 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
Only if you want to claim God actually exists.
If you want to just claim that you believe in God or you believe there are chariots without any claim that your beliefs are more than just personal belief you can get away without any evidence. If though you want to claim actual existence of God or that there really are chariots shown in the photos then yes, of course evidence is needed and pretty strong evidence.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Meddle
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Message 247 of 1310 (752262)
03-09-2015 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Tangle
03-04-2015 7:34 AM


I'm sorry but that isn't a human ovum, it's a fertilised ovum of Ascaris lumbricoides (Roundworm), which I did consider. This is just more evidence that I'm correct and that god is a parasitic worm... tapeworm, roundworm we can skip over the details. And with that I rest my case

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 248 of 1310 (752267)
03-09-2015 8:22 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by ScottRP
03-09-2015 6:04 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
A vision is not a dream. The person witnessing a vision is completely awake and in his/her body.
You need to look up what a dream is:
quote:
2. : an experience of waking life having the characteristics of a dream: as
a : a visionary creation of the imagination : daydream
b : a state of mind marked by abstraction or release from reality : reverie
c : an object seen in a dreamlike state : vision
It even says "vision" explicitly.
I am not attributing a photograph of a spirit in a small chariot to Ezekiel's magnificent vision. It is merely a tiny piece of evidence suggesting that the grand vision Ezekiel's had was real.
Not in the slightest.
A photograph that has orb backscatter in it from a piece of dust has nothing at all to do with the vision that Ezekiel had.

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ScottRP
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Message 249 of 1310 (752276)
03-09-2015 10:56 PM
Reply to: Message 246 by jar
03-09-2015 6:55 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
Neither God nor evidence can be seen through the eyes of ignorance.

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jar
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Message 250 of 1310 (752277)
03-09-2015 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 249 by ScottRP
03-09-2015 10:56 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
Neither God nor evidence can be seen through the eyes of ignorance.
God can most definitely be seen through the eyes of ignorance; the evidence of that is overwhelming.
But so far you have never even tried to present any evidence.
Or is there some reason for that?
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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ScottRP
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From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 251 of 1310 (752282)
03-10-2015 7:16 AM
Reply to: Message 250 by jar
03-09-2015 10:59 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
I've presented photographic evidence. If I took a photo of you, would I not have evidence of your existence? The photograph is merely of a spirit in a tiny chariot. Yet do to your lack of understanding of spiritual things, you cannot see it for what it is. The problem here is not the evidence, it is your inability to discern it.

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jar
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Message 252 of 1310 (752284)
03-10-2015 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 251 by ScottRP
03-10-2015 7:16 AM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
I've presented photographic evidence. If I took a photo of you, would I not have evidence of your existence? The photograph is merely of a spirit in a tiny chariot. Yet do to your lack of understanding of spiritual things, you cannot see it for what it is. The problem here is not the evidence, it is your inability to discern it.
If you presented a picture that you claimed was me it would be reasonable to ask you to present evidence it really is of me, particularly if others looking at the picture could not discern that it was me.
When folk look at the picture you claim is of me and say "That's not jar, not even a person but just dust out of focus" then evidence to support your assertion is definitely required.
The problem here is that you have presented NO evidence to support your claim, only fantasy and assertion.
Sorry Charlie, you've got nothing.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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ScottRP
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Message 253 of 1310 (752287)
03-10-2015 10:19 AM
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03-10-2015 8:55 AM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
Correction: It is you who have "nothing" because that is what you see.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 254 of 1310 (752288)
03-10-2015 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 251 by ScottRP
03-10-2015 7:16 AM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
I've presented photographic evidence.
The photograph is merely of a spirit in a tiny chariot. Yet do to your lack of understanding of spiritual things, you cannot see it for what it is. The problem here is not the evidence, it is your inability to discern it.
And yet, you'll never explain to us how you went about discerning that the photo is what you claim it is.

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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 147 days)
Posts: 515
From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 255 of 1310 (752289)
03-10-2015 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 254 by New Cat's Eye
03-10-2015 10:23 AM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
I'm one of the most knowledgeable persons in regards to that type of photograph in the world today.

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