The Bully Swarm Thread, off the Earth Science Curriculum thread

First, not all "opinions" or interpretations are of equal value.And second, you were peddling belief that is completely contradicted by scientific evidence in the Science Forum. Religious belief unsupported by evidence just doesn't belong in that forum.

I just love it when creationists pick on scientists for their use of "assumptions."To a creationist an assumption seems to mean "automatically wrong."But scientists do not use assumptions that are not supported by evidence. What good is an incorrect assumption? That gets you nowhere.On the other hand, creationists base their entire belief system on an assumption--that the bible is correct. And this is in spite of a massive amount of evidence that the young earth and global flood beliefs are absolutely wrong.So, scientists use assumptions that are well-supported by evidence and creationists hate it, but then creationists turn around and rely on assumptions that are absolutely contradicted by evidence and think that's just grand.As Heinlein noted, "Belief gets in the way of learning..."

For a scientist to debate these issues with Faith/faith is useless.No amount of evidence will change a mind that is rusted shut.

The reason you are having so much trouble here and in many other threads is that you are vastly ignorant of the subjects on which you are opining. It is a willful and self-imposed ignorance.Your head is stuffed so full of dogmatic beliefs that you won't, indeed can't, see something that contradicts those beliefs. This leads you to all sorts of conjectures that you "know" are correct, and you simply can't see why they are wrong even though you are presented with massive amounts of evidence that shows how and why they are wrong.Most of us here are ignorant in fields outside of our specialties, but we endeavor to learn something about a given field before we start posting.

Faith, you discredit your beliefs by posting the way do you.Who can trust someone to be accurate in anything when they have shown themselves to be so inaccurate so often?St. Augustine's commentary on Genesis (De Genesi ad litteram libri duodecim), says it well:

Often a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other parts of the world, about the motions and orbits of the stars and even their sizes and distances, ... and this knowledge he holds with certainty from reason and experience. It is thus offensive and disgraceful for an unbeliever to hear a Christian talk nonsense about such things, claiming that what he is saying is based in Scripture. We should do what we can to avoid such an embarrassing situation, lest the unbeliever see only ignorance in the Christian and laugh to scorn.

We know you aren't interested in scientific accuracy, but rather scriptural purity.But you are making many "perfectly logical observations" which are categorically and demonstrably wrong.Scientists are trained to root out errors, so it would not be logical to expect us to just blindly accept your statements and not to attempt to correct the errors we see. This is a debate board, after all.What you see as "obsessive pedantry" is just the result of our addressing the same errors time and again, year after year, with no observable effect. It is amazing that the posters here are as patient as they are.