Re: Voting: Make it a carrot instead of manditory?
Well, assuming that we ever restore a fairer taxation on the rich here in the USA, we could offer a carrot rather than stick by giving voters a $50 refund on their taxes. Most of these people who don't vote probably fall into a general group of people who just want to be left alone and not have the "government" mess with them. This is similar to the vaccination thread, in a certain way. These non-voters are basically along for the ride on the backs of the voters.
Perhaps voting in the primaries is more important, so maybe $30 there, then $20 for the nationals. Or some amounts that would work best. It is true that proving you voted on your tax form without revealing how you voted is problematical. Your social security number is never on the ballot.
Another thing - make all balloting done by mail-in sent to all registered voters and give them 2 weeks to mail it in. Each mail-in ballot would have a random serial number that appears on the carbon copy as well. On the website for your ward you could anonymously look up your serial number and see how it was counted. Homeless voters could go to someone who could get them a ballot after careful checks to make sure they were not illegals or had already voted.
The whole concept of voting will always have its flaws with the evils of shrewd expensive advertising propaganda. But that is what the USA is founded on, so we have to accept it.
Re: What a doofus! He earned his place on this thread.
President Obama Just Announced an Election Change That Would Transform the Face of American Politics
That was an opinion, not an announcement.
So who's the doofus?
They have mandatory voting in Australia, and it works quite well. I don't expect it to happen in the USA.
[Just listening to a radio interview. Someone said about mandatory voting -- "you could go into the voting booth and write-in Big Bird". Well sure. "Mandatory voting" is really only "mandatory showing up at the voting center on election day". You could still deliberately spoil your ballot.]
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quote:This is one of those media distortions that makes me nuts, as CNN pushes the absolutely false meme that President Obama said anything like, “Maybe it’s time for mandatory voting.” Notice that the CNN headline attributes these words directly to Obama — but he never said them.
Their own video clip shows what a ridiculous distortion this is; Obama is saying we should make voting easier, not make it “mandatory.” Yes, he mentions Australia where voting is mandatory, but only to make the point that it would be transformative if more people voted in the US. It’s a hypothetical statement. He didn’t advocate, call for, or even “suggest” making voting mandatory in the US.
But if the President was trolling the right with this statement, it worked. They’re all foaming at the mouth about this today.
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He does not have the power as the president to mandate it. Was it a trial balloon? Was it to distract attention from something else?
Is this a tacit acknowledgement that you were wrong and that Obama didn't actually announce an election change as you alleged?
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If Charleston and Savannah both get the presidential nuke then does that mean they would be exempt from the Presidential Edict on mandatory voting? I mean the voters would be dead and neither of these places are even close to Chicago. Can someone clarify for me, please?
Well, it's just a question. Like "Was it to distract attention from something else?" and "was that a terrorist fist jab?" and "why hasnt he come round to my house to show me his birth certificate in person, does he have something to hide?"