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Topic: Presbyterian Church approves of same-sex marriages
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Jon
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Message 17 of 123 (753266)
03-18-2015 3:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 12 by Phat
03-18-2015 1:24 PM
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Re: Club Rules
Shouldn't the kind of love for God be completely different than the kind of love for one another? I can't understand how there could be a competition between the two. Edited by Jon, : No reason given.
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Message 31 of 123 (753415)
03-19-2015 5:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 20 by Phat
03-19-2015 8:10 AM
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Re: Club Rules
Flesh gives birth to flesh and Spirit to spirit. Well, yeah; they're completely different. That was my point.
What I dont expect nor accept is a couple in church limiting themselves to carnal expression. I suppose church would be the wrong place for carnal expression. But there're plenty of other places for them to do it...
I see no point nor purpose for marriage between two men. You keep repeating that, but you keep providing no reason.
That is, for the record, my opinion. That's fine, but for the sake of clarity don't you think you could provide some reasons for that opinion?
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Message 33 of 123 (753532)
03-20-2015 1:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 32 by Phat
03-20-2015 12:56 PM
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Re: Phats Opinion
Why limit your love to just one man? So you'd be okay with polyamorous homosexuality?
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Message 35 of 123 (753534)
03-20-2015 1:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 34 by Phat
03-20-2015 1:05 PM
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Re: Phats Opinion
For a man to love more than one man in no way implies that sex is even part of the equation. Why should it be? So these men should remain chaste their whole lives?
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Message 40 of 123 (753549)
03-20-2015 1:54 PM
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Reply to: Message 36 by Phat
03-20-2015 1:13 PM
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Re: Phats Opinion
How many times do you quote dictionaries on this site, and now you can't be bothered to use one to look up something as simple as a single word? Adjective chaste ( comparative chaster, superlative chastest) - abstaining from sexual intercourse, celibate
- from Wiktionary
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Jon
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Message 48 of 123 (753566)
03-20-2015 3:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 46 by Phat
03-20-2015 3:00 PM
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Re: Phats Opinion
If either partner finds themself idolizing the other and/or worshiping them than no, they shouldn't be married. So the more in love they are then the more reason they have to not marry?
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Message 55 of 123 (753640)
03-21-2015 10:45 AM
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Reply to: Message 51 by Phat
03-21-2015 3:21 AM
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Re: Phats Opinion
Are you going to have a discussion or just keep pretending like you don't speak English?
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Re: Phats Opinion
Staying hung up on whether or not they should "allow" it, while the men are going out and getting married, misses out on a great opportunity to keep God in the picture. They're going to have to stop being so dogmatic about hating men lying together if they don't want to be left in the dust. Lesson being: As much as they may hate it, not even the church is immune from the processes of evolution...
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A Distinction with a Difference
Just a side bar point: there are no unwanted children in same-sex marriages. Its wrong to think that gay people can't have children. They do: Message 10 Yes; but the children they have are all wanted. Edited by Jon, : No reason given.
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Re: A Distinction with a Difference
How many unintended pregnancies occur between homosexuals?
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Re: A Distinction with a Difference
They could get married before or after that event and still end up with a child they don't want. Especially if the other parent dies. I considered that. But I don't think that is at all what xongsmith was talking about. Do you?
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Re: A Distinction with a Difference
I think xongsmith was pointing out that straight couples often end up with children they don't want, many times cannot afford, and are unprepared to raise. Homosexual couples don't have that problem, and so, contrary to the utterly stupid shit Phat's been spewing into this thread, homosexuals are as equipped asif not more thanheterosexual couples when it comes to raising a family.
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Message 79 of 123 (753784)
03-22-2015 9:53 AM
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Reply to: Message 77 by Faith
03-22-2015 1:10 AM
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Re: Phats Opinion
It IS what we're supposed to do, though many may fail at it. All so far have; and lets hope that all continue to.
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Message 91 of 123 (754002)
03-23-2015 5:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 86 by Phat
03-23-2015 11:32 AM
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Re: A Distinction with a Difference
Children can find role models anywhere. What is most important is that they have good role models of both genders. Not everyone needs to be a momma's boy.
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Jon
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Re: A Distinction with a Difference
Still isn't really working for me. That's because still you aren't reading what is written. You's simply inventing your own version of xongsmith's argument. And that won't get anyone anywhere.
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