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New Cat's Eye
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Message 61 of 123 (753692)
03-21-2015 5:35 PM
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03-21-2015 5:14 PM


Re: Phats Opinion
Don't let them kid you, they've been evolving for centuries. And never without this same old restraint.

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xongsmith
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Message 62 of 123 (753695)
03-21-2015 6:01 PM


Just a side bar point: there are no unwanted children in same-sex marriages.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 63 of 123 (753696)
03-21-2015 6:14 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by xongsmith
03-21-2015 6:01 PM


Just a side bar point: there are no unwanted children in same-sex marriages.
Its wrong to think that gay people can't have children. They do: Message 10

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Faith 
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Message 64 of 123 (753709)
03-21-2015 6:53 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by New Cat's Eye
03-21-2015 5:04 PM


Re: Phats Opinion
It's blasphemy to call an unnatural union "holy."

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 65 of 123 (753716)
03-21-2015 7:18 PM
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03-21-2015 6:53 PM


Re: Phats Opinion
It's blasphemy to call an unnatural union "holy."
Have fun being left in the dust!

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NoNukes
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Message 66 of 123 (753721)
03-21-2015 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Phat
03-21-2015 10:37 AM


Re: Phats Opinion
Actually...after thinking about it...no. I have no problem with it.
Wow! Someone changed their mind on the internet! Nice work Phat and jar!

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Faith 
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Message 67 of 123 (753723)
03-21-2015 7:32 PM
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03-21-2015 7:18 PM


Re: Phats Opinion
The church's job is to stand against the world. If the world comes up with blasphemous ideas the church is to stand against them. The church goes apostate and falls away from God when it begins to care about "being left in the dust."

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 68 of 123 (753735)
03-21-2015 7:57 PM
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03-21-2015 7:32 PM


Re: Phats Opinion
The church's job is to stand against the world. If the world comes up with blasphemous ideas the church is to stand against them. The church goes apostate and falls away from God when it begins to care about "being left in the dust."
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

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subbie
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Message 69 of 123 (753738)
03-21-2015 8:10 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by Faith
03-21-2015 7:32 PM


Re: Phats Opinion
Faith writes:
The church's job is to stand against the world. If the world comes up with blasphemous ideas the church is to stand against them. The church goes apostate and falls away from God when it begins to care about "being left in the dust."
Sure, just like it stood against the world regarding slavery, segregation, women's rights, interracial marriage, the Nazis, women wearing hats in church... ad infinitum. Your lack of awareness truly is staggering.

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Jon
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Message 70 of 123 (753744)
03-21-2015 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by New Cat's Eye
03-21-2015 6:14 PM


A Distinction with a Difference
Just a side bar point: there are no unwanted children in same-sex marriages.
Its wrong to think that gay people can't have children. They do: Message 10
Yes; but the children they have are all wanted.
Edited by Jon, : No reason given.

Love your enemies!

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 71 of 123 (753749)
03-21-2015 9:07 PM
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03-21-2015 8:50 PM


Re: A Distinction with a Difference
Yes; but the children they have are all wanted.
Every single one of them?

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Jon
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Message 72 of 123 (753752)
03-21-2015 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by New Cat's Eye
03-21-2015 9:07 PM


Re: A Distinction with a Difference
How many unintended pregnancies occur between homosexuals?

Love your enemies!

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 73 of 123 (753754)
03-21-2015 9:32 PM
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03-21-2015 9:20 PM


Re: A Distinction with a Difference
How many unintended pregnancies occur between homosexuals?
Between them? Have you just failed to consider homosexuals having children with members of the opposite sex?
They could get married before or after that event and still end up with a child they don't want. Especially if the other parent dies.

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Jon
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Message 74 of 123 (753755)
03-21-2015 9:36 PM
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03-21-2015 9:32 PM


Re: A Distinction with a Difference
They could get married before or after that event and still end up with a child they don't want. Especially if the other parent dies.
I considered that. But I don't think that is at all what xongsmith was talking about.
Do you?

Love your enemies!

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 75 of 123 (753757)
03-21-2015 9:47 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by Jon
03-21-2015 9:36 PM


Re: A Distinction with a Difference
I considered that. But I don't think that is at all what xongsmith was talking about.
Do you?
I'm not sure. It was a one-liner that read like a joke.
It implied that gays can't have children, which is why I made the point that I did.
What did you think they meant that made you side with gays not being able to have unwanted children?

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