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Faith 
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Message 1393 of 1485 (754285)
03-25-2015 6:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1390 by DrJones*
03-25-2015 6:54 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
The position seems to be: Given that he was born in america President Obama is a natural born american citizen, and that even if he wasn't born in america he is a natural born american citizen by virtue of his mother's US citizenship.
Ha ha. Right. So now explain why it's so evil for the "birthers" to claim he was born in Kenya? Just agree with them instead of calling them names. Nope, clearly there IS a problem with his having been born in Kenya of a Kenyan father.
Gosh I wish I had some potato chips.

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Faith 
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Message 1394 of 1485 (754286)
03-25-2015 7:04 PM
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03-25-2015 6:54 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
if you're giving Cruz a pass for the same thing you're villifying Obama for then you're a hypocrite.
I'm not giving Cruz a pass. That's all made up to throw at me. I've said NOTHING about Cruz, haven't thought about Cruz at all. Hint: I put the Constitution above anybody. So when it's clear what the Constitution REALLY says, which so far has been far far far from clarified among the Obama fans on this thread, then you can figure out what I think of Cruz's candidacy.

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Faith 
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Message 1396 of 1485 (754288)
03-25-2015 7:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1395 by jar
03-25-2015 7:04 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
Amazing how you can all deny the evidence.

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Faith 
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Message 1398 of 1485 (754290)
03-25-2015 7:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1397 by Omnivorous
03-25-2015 7:06 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
If there is evidence against it please produce it. All I've seen is really good evidence for it. Some of which I postedl

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Faith 
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Message 1401 of 1485 (754294)
03-25-2015 7:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1399 by ThinAirDesigns
03-25-2015 7:10 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
I'm relying completely on the assembled genius on this thread about the Constitutionality of a President's being born of a foreign father in a foreign land with an American mother. I really have no opinion of my own at this point, but it sure is amusing to watch you all lie about me and present your conflicting stories about Obama.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 1403 of 1485 (754296)
03-25-2015 7:26 PM
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03-25-2015 7:23 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
I'll just say it again: the evidence I found is VERY good.

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Faith 
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Message 1406 of 1485 (754299)
03-25-2015 7:43 PM
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03-25-2015 7:34 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
Yeah I was wrong about what the Constitution requires. None of that affects all the lies you've all been floating since about what it DOES require.
There's lots of evidence from Kenya that he was born there but the fact that his own literary agent described him in 1991 as born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii is very good evidence too:

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Faith 
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Message 1407 of 1485 (754300)
03-25-2015 7:45 PM
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03-25-2015 7:34 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
But being born in Kenya of a Kenyan father does disqualify Obama from the Presidency ...
Do you care if the above is true of false? What would you God think of you continue to spew nonsense that isn't to about the above?
Well, I concluded it from information given by you all here, so if it's nonsense it's YOUR nonsense.

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Message 1409 of 1485 (754302)
03-25-2015 8:02 PM
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03-25-2015 8:00 PM


LogRe: try actually thinking you all
Logic isn't your strong point, is it?
Amazing to watch you all scramble on this subject. I have very little interest in it but your antics can be very entertaining.

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Faith 
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Message 1413 of 1485 (754306)
03-25-2015 8:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1412 by Tanypteryx
03-25-2015 8:23 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
My my my, so many who don't bother reading in context. Just pay attention to the post I'm answering to see why I'm answering it that way. You and Thin Air both violate this simple rule of discourse.

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Faith 
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Message 1414 of 1485 (754307)
03-25-2015 8:42 PM
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03-25-2015 8:05 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
Read up thread a tad and read in context for a change.

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Faith 
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Message 1418 of 1485 (754318)
03-25-2015 10:19 PM
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03-25-2015 8:48 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
It was Jones' post and he gave two options and I responded to the second with a logical suggestion as to how anyone who believes it should respond. You even quoted it I believe, missing the whole point. You sure are one sanctimonious know-it-all aren't you?

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Faith 
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Message 1420 of 1485 (754328)
03-25-2015 11:19 PM
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03-25-2015 11:07 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
If there isn't a problem if he was born in Kenya there would be no need for all the extreme efforts to prove he wasn't. Why bother if it's all the same? WHY NOT JUST SAY IT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM instead of going to such lengths to prove it false?

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Faith 
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Message 1423 of 1485 (754331)
03-25-2015 11:30 PM
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03-25-2015 11:26 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
If there is no challenge to his qualifications for the Presidency the truth in this case is just a trivial misunderstanding. All that ever had to be said is Gee no I wasn't born in Kenya if there was no Constitutional problem raised by it. And it should be easy enough to prove there is no Constitutional problem if that's true, so that should be the focus rather than going to the trouble of producing documents. This whole thing is fishy.

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Faith 
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Message 1424 of 1485 (754333)
03-25-2015 11:38 PM
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03-25-2015 11:28 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
So, you are daft.
Why do you keep denying the clear evidence that he was born in Kenya?
Literary agent said so.
Grandmother said so.
Other Kenyan relatives said so.
Mailman said he was a "foreign student," which someone born in Hawaii would not be.
You have to ignore or rationalize away a LOT of perfectly good evidence to be as daft as you are.

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