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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1281 of 1485 (711776)
11-22-2013 9:54 AM
Reply to: Message 1279 by AZPaul3
11-22-2013 9:49 AM


Re: Amendment XXVIII
Let me just be a complete dumbass here for a bit:
Why should I care how much money corporations waste on political spending?
ABE:
Actually, this should be a new thread.
Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.

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Message 1286 of 1485 (711796)
11-22-2013 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1284 by AZPaul3
11-22-2013 10:50 AM


Re: Amendment XXVIII
Sweet, thanks for the link. I've got some work to do, but I'll get caught up with that reading and I'll get back to you with an opinion and maybe an argument.

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Message 1290 of 1485 (711814)
11-22-2013 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1289 by xongsmith
11-22-2013 12:13 PM


Re: Cover me, Koch Inc., I'm gonna take that hill.
Maybe not just one, but certainly not all who work at the corporation.
Of course not, why would it?
Take Walmart. What percent of the people working for that corporation have a voice in who the Walton family will endorse, bankroll & promote for election?
Exactly the percentage of them that should: 0%.
Its the Walton's money, why should one of their employees have any say in how they spend their own money?
Uncle Bob cannot stop this.
So what?

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Message 1291 of 1485 (711816)
11-22-2013 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 1284 by AZPaul3
11-22-2013 10:50 AM


Re: Amendment XXVIII
Alright, I think I get it. It just doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me.

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Message 1294 of 1485 (711825)
11-22-2013 4:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1293 by AZPaul3
11-22-2013 4:20 PM


Re: Amendment XXVIII
I value your opinion as much as anyone else, which, since they are not mine, is not all that much.
So you're telling me that you value my opinion...

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1416 of 1485 (754311)
03-25-2015 9:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1354 by dwise1
03-24-2015 9:36 PM


Re: Ted Cruz has tweeted!
The Constitution requires that a President be born in the USA ...
Completely and utter false! Before you tell us what the Constitution requires, shouldn't you take a little time to read it first? Is it an article of faith with you that you must be ignorant of everything you choose to pontificate on?
Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States (my emphasis added):
quote:
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
While the Constitution does not specify exactly how "a natural born Citizen" is defined, subsequent law, including the Naturalization Act of 1790, has. A 2011 Congressional Research Service report stated that:
quote:
The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term "natural born" citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "by birth" or "at birth," either by being born "in" the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship "at birth."
His mother was a citizen, so he is a "natural born Citizen" as required, regardless of the fact that he was also born in the USA (a former co-worker and native Hawaiian could never understand the main-land idiots who didn't realize that Hawaii is in the USA).
I honestly don't care where Obama was born*. But your post did elicit a thought:
If I go down to Tijuana and knock up a Mexican prostitute, would that child be a natural born citizen (in the US)?
What if it wasn't a stranger and instead it was a woman who I had been married to, would that matter (in the legal sense)?
.
*I don't see why I should care where you flopped out of your mom's vagina. If you can become the POTUS, then you can.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1417 of 1485 (754312)
03-25-2015 9:36 PM


So I had to use the "Thread Details" button to find Dave's post that I just replied to.
And I noticed that the late, and great, Buzsaw had bunch of posts in this thread. (all you new guys won't know him as being the old YEC conservative that he was)
But here's a link to his posts in this thread from back in 2011: here
And if you want to see what my opinion has been over the last 4 years, then you can find it: here.
Maybe that can add some context to my question so I can't come back and excuse a stupid post as "just joking"
Ha! just joking...

  
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Message 1467 of 1485 (754436)
03-26-2015 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1426 by Dr Adequate
03-25-2015 11:50 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
Well, I guess there's no stronger bond than that between a man and his literary agent.
Wouldn't Obama have approved the bio that his literary agency was using for him?
Not that it means he actually was born in Kenya, but it would mean that he was willing to say that he was.

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Message 1477 of 1485 (754450)
03-26-2015 7:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1473 by NoNukes
03-26-2015 6:47 PM


Re: try actually thinking you all
What appears to be more likely given the difficult to manufacture evidence that Obama was actually born in the US (absent a time machine),
I don't doubt that he was born in Hawaii.
and the statements from the agent that they did not check the information with Obama?
That's what I'm doubting. I don't see how you could be ignorant of the bio that your literary agency is using. If anything, you'd probably have to be supplying them with the information.
Perhaps they thought that portraying him as being from Kenya would help with his book sales?
Seriously, given that the real constitutional issue almost certainly does not center around the location of Obama's birth anyway, isn't the real point to this question one of whether Obama is not 'one of us'? Isn't that exactly what your question of 'he's willing to say he was [born in Kenya?]' is getting at?
Not at all.
How about if you establish the pre-requisite point first, and then I consider your misplaced impugning?
All the rebuttals to the literary agency stuff has been about them admitting their error. I just didn't see anyone considering that Obama would have probably been in on it.
Which would mean that he lied about it, that's all. Its not that big of a deal.

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