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Topic: The Awesome Republican Primary Thread
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 1328 of 1485 (754025)
03-23-2015 10:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 1325 by Diomedes
03-23-2015 4:38 PM
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Re: Ted Cruz has tweeted!
Question: since the Birther in Chief (Donald Trump) and his rag-tag bunch of rube crazies have already established that someone not born in the USA cannot run for President of the United States, then how come Canadian born Ted Cruz appears to be exempt from any scrutiny?
Reports are that Trump is already on the case:
Trump brings birther charge against Cruz
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 1351 of 1485 (754178)
03-24-2015 8:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 1340 by Faith
03-24-2015 6:25 PM
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Re: Ted Cruz has tweeted!
Gosh, and here I thought it was a concern for the integrity of the Constitution.
Where's that "jeer" button when I need it?
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 1352 of 1485 (754179)
03-24-2015 8:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 1345 by Faith
03-24-2015 8:03 PM
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Re: Evidence Obama born in Kenya
Actually the evidence that he was born in Kenya is really pretty good, and evidence that the Hawaiian documents were faked is not bad either.
Damn. I need that "jeer" button again.
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Re: Evidence Obama born in Kenya
Your 2nd video is only about the acquaintance of Barack with a former Weatherman who was working in the poor sections of town and naturally would meet Obama, who had the same agenda - helping the poor. Thanking people who helped him get an education, stating that he was going to be POTUS - migod, Faith - you twist this into a supporter of a former terrorist? WOW. 0-2
She was just demonstrating that Christian love.
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 1384 of 1485 (754272)
03-25-2015 6:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 1370 by Faith
03-25-2015 3:27 PM
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But being born in Kenya of a Kenyan father does disqualify Obama from the Presidency and you are all lying about that.
And you wonder why people call you a liar?
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 1385 of 1485 (754273)
03-25-2015 6:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 1371 by Faith
03-25-2015 3:29 PM
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Re: Ted Cruz has tweeted!
The evidence for Kenya is very good.
We mathematicians might say that is vacuously true. There isn't any evidence for a Kenya birth. None at all. So if you describe every bit of that evidence as good, you are not saying anything false. That's what it means to say that it is vacuously true.
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 1386 of 1485 (754274)
03-25-2015 6:31 PM
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Reply to: Message 1376 by Faith
03-25-2015 5:32 PM
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Re: Kenyan birth continued
It's not hard to fake documentary evidence of many kinds. But the evidence that the Hawaiian evidence is faked is mostly in the very good evidence that Obama was born in Kenya. His grandmother's testimony that she was there at his birth among other Kenyan sources; news reporters presenting his Kenyan birth as fact; the identification of Obama as having been born there in a statement by his literary agent in 1991, and many other statements of the same sort before he became a candidate fior the Presidency --- and the rush to get rid of all that previous evidence at that point sure does suggest that being born of a Kenyan father in Kenya does disqualify him, even in the eyes of some of his supporters. Again, you guys really need to get your stories together. And the mailman who was told by Mary Ayers that they were helping a "foreign student." And that's just a few bits of evidence I found.
Religious faith = complete gullibility. It is a total surrender of one's mind to the cult leader.
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 1421 of 1485 (754329)
03-25-2015 11:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 1420 by Faith
03-25-2015 11:19 PM
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Re: try actually thinking you all
If there isn't a problem if he was born in Kenya there would be no need for all the extreme efforts to prove he wasn't.
So you don't give a damn about the truth. And you think its wrong for people to care about truth. And if people do care about truth, their very concern about that truth is clear evidence in support of the falsehood. Up is down. True is false. Good is bad. Faith is an evil nihilist atheist. Oh, and if Faith disagrees with any of this, that disagreement will only be evidence supporting it. The multiverse thesis must be true, and we have just entered an alternative universe.
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 1431 of 1485 (754348)
03-26-2015 12:58 AM
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Reply to: Message 1423 by Faith
03-25-2015 11:30 PM
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Re: try actually thinking you all
If there is no challenge to his qualifications for the Presidency the truth in this case is just a trivial misunderstanding.
No, it isn't that. Rather, it is very deliberate misinformation created by conservative ideologues in order to mislead low information voters such as yourself (assuming that you vote). It is a deliberate and willful "bearing of false witness" by people who claim to be Christian.
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Re: code words, dog-whistles and prejudice
Is Obama running in the next Republican primary? Cuz, the title of this thread is about awesome Republican primaries.
Check the date when the thread was started. This thread is about the 2012 election, though it may have drifted a tad off topic.
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Re: Going into summary mode
There's a (fairly) Republican primary topic, ...
This one has become a truly awesome 'What "evidence" means to Faith' thread.
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 4.5
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Message 1483 of 1485 (754468)
03-26-2015 8:51 PM
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My summary - no concept of evidence
I'm not sure if I already blew my one post limit with a reply that was not supposed to be allowed. I guess I'll find out when I try to post this. Recent posts in this thread have been very revealing about evidence for Faith. They give the impression that confirmation bias is the only "standard" used. I see this as explaining a lot about all of the threads in which Faith has participated
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