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Author Topic:   Evidence that the Great Unconformity did not Form Before the Strata above it
Faith 
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Message 736 of 1939 (754814)
03-31-2015 3:09 PM
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03-31-2015 3:00 PM


Re: houses
You have a knack for stating the obvious.

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Faith 
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Message 737 of 1939 (754815)
03-31-2015 3:14 PM
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03-31-2015 3:00 PM


Re: houses
The theory of evolution can explain that sequence of fossils scientifically
The Theory of Evolution is pseudoscience, nothing but mental castle-building. It's genetically impossible for one thing, as I've argued over and over here -- microevolution depletes genetic material so you can never get a creature evolving beyond its given genetic potentials. And again, turning blocks of rock of specific flavors into time periods is so ridiculous I don't know how you all live with yourselves.

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Pressie
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Message 738 of 1939 (754816)
03-31-2015 3:17 PM
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03-31-2015 3:09 PM


Re: houses
faith writes:
You have a knack for stating the obvious.
Yes. That's why I discussed the obvious relative ages of the stratigraphy of parts of South Africa and also the obvious evolution of reptiles to mammals as found in the Beaufort Group.
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edge
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Message 739 of 1939 (754817)
03-31-2015 3:20 PM
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03-31-2015 2:53 PM


Re: houses
Once again the "support" is pathetically nothing but senseless mental constructs and inventions.
According to whom?
Time periods in strata, it's laughable except that it's bamboozled most of the human race, which really isn't funny.
This would be a good place to tell us why it's laughable.

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Pressie
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Message 740 of 1939 (754818)
03-31-2015 3:22 PM
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03-31-2015 3:14 PM


Re: houses
faith writes:
The Theory of Evolution is pseudoscience, nothing but mental castle-building. It's genetically impossible for one thing, as I've argued over and over here -- microevolution depletes genetic material so you can never get a creature evolving beyond its given genetic potentials. And again, turning blocks of rock of specific flavors into time periods is so ridiculous I don't know how you all live with yourselves.
Obviously you're wrong; reality shows that you are talking nonsense. Again I can refer you to the Beaufort Group.

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Message 741 of 1939 (754819)
03-31-2015 3:24 PM
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03-31-2015 3:14 PM


Faith's argument by her own authority
quote:
The Theory of Evolution is pseudoscience, nothing but mental castle-building.
Do you really think that repeating this assertion is sufficient to dispel the evidence ? Because that is how you are trying to use it.
quote:
t's genetically impossible for one thing, as I've argued over and over here -- microevolution depletes genetic material so you can never get a creature evolving beyond its given genetic potentials
You've often made that assertion but failed to provide the argument needed to support it.
quote:
And again, turning blocks of rock of specific flavors into time periods is so ridiculous I don't know how you all live with yourselves.
Even you believe that the sediment that makes up sedimentary rocks was deposited and that for each rock there was a time period when that sediment was deposited. Even you believe that the magma that became igneous rock erupted and cooled and solidified and that for each such rock there was a time when that happened. And yet you suddenly call that belief "ridiculous" What's your alternative ?

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edge
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Message 742 of 1939 (754820)
03-31-2015 3:26 PM
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03-31-2015 3:09 PM


Re: how long ago was 4230 years?
Coprolites are FOSSILS.
Yes, they are actually trace fossils that don't run away to escape flood waters.
If human beings were found fossilized in great numbers then we could expect to find human coprolites.
I'm not asking for a great number of human fossils at the Great Unconformity, just one would be nice, and maybe a few broken pottery pieces.
But it appears that humans along with some of the higher mammals, escaped fossilization ...
How did they escape fossilization?
... and got eaten up by sea creatures or bacteria. Maybe they lived in grass huts that got destroyed too.
So, a people who could create an Ark that would withstand turbulent flood conditions and weather, lived in grass houses?

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edge
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Message 743 of 1939 (754821)
03-31-2015 3:33 PM
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03-31-2015 3:09 PM


Re: how long ago was 4230 years?
But it appears that humans along with some of the higher mammals, escaped fossilization ...
Heh, heh...
This reminds me of another forum a year or so ago where a poster said that human remains (and I guess houses, tools, etc.) could not be fossilized because of some 'different state' wherein humans were 'spiritual' and not 'physical'.
ETA: maybe they had spiritual coprolites, too...
Does Faith want to reach that far for an explanation?
Edited by edge, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 744 of 1939 (754822)
03-31-2015 3:58 PM
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03-31-2015 3:20 PM


Re: houses
Once again the "support" is pathetically nothing but senseless mental constructs and inventions.
According to whom?
Anyone who recognizes that there is no real evidence, anyone who stops to think about what is claimed for "evidence" instead of just taking it on faith and throwing it back on people who can see through it. Really, all you have to do is remove your head from the box it's been in for decades and free it to really see reality and really think for a change. You just keep your mind running around on its accustomed path and you don't really think at all you just keep going on that path you learned years ago,.
Time periods in strata, it's laughable except that it's bamboozled most of the human race, which really isn't funny.
This would be a good place to tell us why it's laughable.
Been there done that. Get off your circular track and you can see it for yourself. Stop ignoring the words I keep using over and over for starters.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 745 of 1939 (754823)
03-31-2015 4:03 PM
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03-31-2015 3:33 PM


Re: how long ago was 4230 years?
But it appears that humans along with some of the higher mammals, escaped fossilization ...
Heh, heh...
This reminds me of another forum a year or so ago where a poster said that human remains (and I guess houses, tools, etc.) could not be fossilized because of some 'different state' wherein humans were 'spiritual' and not 'physical'.
ETA: maybe they had spiritual coprolites, too...
Does Faith want to reach that far for an explanation?
You really don't read anything I write do you? Or it just goes right through you. I've never used such a silly argument as the above but since you can't or don't read and don't care about slandering me I get this kind of nonsense from you all the time. In fact I doubt you've ever done anything but make up straw man arguments against me, stuff you made up yourself. I gave a good reason why people and higher mammals would have escaped fossilization and I'll leave it to you to see if you have the honesty to go and find it.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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edge
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Message 746 of 1939 (754824)
03-31-2015 4:10 PM
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03-31-2015 4:03 PM


Re: how long ago was 4230 years?
You really don't read anything I write do you? ...
Read carefully, I never said you wrote these things.

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Faith 
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Message 747 of 1939 (754825)
03-31-2015 4:14 PM
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03-31-2015 4:10 PM


Re: how long ago was 4230 years?
No but you made sure to link me with them as if I did, insinuating that I say such stupid things too. You play a mean and cheap game here and I wish you'd cut it out.

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edge
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Message 748 of 1939 (754826)
03-31-2015 4:14 PM
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03-31-2015 3:58 PM


Re: houses
Anyone who recognizes that there is no real evidence, anyone who stops to think about what is claimed for "evidence" instead of just taking it on faith and throwing it back on people who can see through it.
Once again, who?
Besides, everyone here has provided evidence except for you. So who 'recognizes that there is no real evidence'?
Really, all you have to do is remove your head from the box it's been in for decades and free it to really see reality and really think for a change. You just keep your mind running around on its accustomed path and you don't really think at all you just keep going on that path you learned years ago,.
All I'm doing is asking for evidence. And I'm not the only one...

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edge
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Message 749 of 1939 (754827)
03-31-2015 4:16 PM
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03-31-2015 4:14 PM


Re: how long ago was 4230 years?
No but you made sure to link me with them as if I did, insinuating that I say such ****** things too. You play a mean and cheap game here and I wish you'd cut it out.
All I'm saying is that it's not out of YEC bounds. I just thought it was a funny story. We get way to serious here. Why can't you laugh along?

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 750 of 1939 (754828)
03-31-2015 4:16 PM
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03-31-2015 3:58 PM


Re: houses
Really, all you have to do is remove your head from the box it's been in for decades and free it to really see reality and really think for a change.
Okay, I've done that.
Now what should I be looking at?

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