Evidence that the Great Unconformity did not Form Before the Strata above it

If I calculate the weight of the moon as if it were made of green cheese -- the calculation would be accurate, but it wouldn't mean the moon is made of green cheese.And if such calculations are off topic, stop presenting the calculations and no one will then need call you on them.JBEdited by ThinAirDesigns, : No reason given.Edited by ThinAirDesigns, : No reason given.

You introduced the utterly absurd idea that the Atlantic Ocean might have opened in just 4500 years. How can pointing out how utterly stupid that idea really is ever be out of line?

Faith, I think what they are saying is GIGO.Now, let's move on.

Which of course they were, too flat for surface weathering to be the explanation. Perhaps not, but that's no argument in favor of your theory. Or it's just as much in favor of mine. However, I have seen such illustrations, I just can't find them now: FOLDED rock with a lone horizontal layer perched across the folds and NO sign that it deposited into the troughs. No. But possibly planed off by abrasion between upper and lower sections. Why do I bother talking to you. Of course I understand it, that's the whole point of the illustration. The LATERAL movement (see caption below illustration) is what produces the folds. The book above is sufficient compression in itself for lightweight cloth, it doesn't need further compression to represent the weight of the strata above the G.U. Of COURSE that's the point of the book. Good grief. But in reality, according to Hutton and company there would have been no confining pressure. The folding and tilting occurred without any strata above. After a little break of a few million years, during which deposition decided to stop altogether, frightened perhaps by the folding, who knows, then it resumed on top of the tilted rock.But a confining pressure IS needed in the real world, which is why Lyell needed a book for his experiment, and that's what MY theory has to offer. The book doesn't serve Hutton and Lyell but it does serve the interpretation I've been giving. You are just bloviating now, pretending you know better than I do, because you can get away with it. Oh for a moderator who could and would call you on your misrepresentations and other shenanigans. What I have described of how the scenario works is accurate, your "correction" is totally misplaced and I really should stop talking to you at all. You're just a bully who has to be right because you're a ***Geologist*** But what Lyell intended by it is irrelevant since it works for my purposes better.

Bunch of iddiotts frequent EvC who haven't a clue how to think hypothetically. What a sham this place is.

Yeh, I'm moving on. I need a break from this *************Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Except that we have shown you several instances where erosion can do this. Likely because there are no fold troughs, or the crests have been planed off. Except that there is no evidence of abrasion... Then you understand that the confining pressure is just part of the boundary conditions for the experiment. The book has no true geological equivalent. Well, we know that's not possible. Is your rant done yet? I notice that you are not addressing my points (which have mostly been made here numerous times, by the way..) What do you mean by 'misplaced'? And why? I thought we were talking about geology. Just trying to help out here. Better than what? You don't think that it explains a certain folding mechanism?

But Faith, again you are simply misrepresenting what has been posted as well as reality.Of course folk here can think hypothetically; the only difference is that they also think critically. They can consider your idea and take the next step, the step you always seem to leave out and ask, "If that were true what MUST we see?"In your idea that the Atlantic Ocean opened over the last 4500 years we would have to see the magnetic poles reverse at least 184 times. Now granted for much of that time people were only using magnets as divination devices but for at least 600+ years they were using them for navigation and so should have noticed that every 25 years or so every compass swapped polarity.Then again, if what you claimed was true we would need to find some evidence to explain starting the motion and also slowing down that motion. Events leave evidence. Change must leave evidence. You need to produce both the evidence as well as the model, method, mechanism, process or procedure that would explain continents moving speeding up and then slowing down.It's not just thinking hypothetically but rather then being able to criticize your own idea and develop sufficient evidence to convince those who think you are wrong.Edited by jar, : appalin spallin you--->your

You blithering......THE POINT OF THE CALCULATION WAS TO FIND OUT IF TECTONIC MOVEMENT THAT STARTED AT THE FLOOD WOULD BE SO FAST IT WOULD MAKE THE OCEANS "BOIL" AND THE ANSWER IS NO!

Except you made absolutely no calculations about how much energy would be needed, the source of such energy or how much of that energy would get transferred to the water. You also made lots of obviously false assertions like assuming there would be lots of water to heat. If as you claim the continent split happened in only 4500 years then there would have been no Atlantic Ocean at the beginning and so almost no water at the initial rift.Go back and critique your "hypothetical" and actually do a few real calculations, like how much energy is needed to accelerate a mass equal to a continent to the speed of ten feet a day.Before you can say anything about boiling the Atlantic you need that figure.Edited by jar, : changed miles per hour to feet per day to actually reflect what Faith claimed.

THE QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH THE *SPEED* AND ONLY THE SPEED, YOU TWISTING TWISTER.

Faith, If you are getting THAT upset that you actually increase your font to show just how loud you're yelling....maybe you need to take a break for a few days and give yourself time to cool off.This is just a suggestion but I will make it official if necessary.

And thinking critically requires you take the next step and ask "If this were true what must I see?"That is the difference between science and preaching.

Make it official. Make it a week, a month, a year, make it forever. If I don't get out of here I'll have a stroke.And count on the EvC mods to gang up with the bullies. Wow what a cesspool this is.

I'm not officially siding with anyone, but it IS quite obvious that you're having issues. For you own health I will make it a week if you really want me to.