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NoNukes
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Message 892 of 928 (758697)
05-31-2015 1:03 AM
Reply to: Message 882 by Faith
05-30-2015 9:10 PM


Re: Turing Test
But that's probably because I agree with the Protestant Reformers that he's the Antichrist.
Uh, weren't the reformers proven wrong about that? History seems to show that all those popes who were supposedly the anti-Christ are now dead, and yet our Savior has not yet returned. Not a one of them accomplished anything along the lines of the actions set out in Revelations. When Pope Francis dies, will you at that point acknowledge that he is not the anti-Christ? Or will you just lock into his successor?
Surely some superstitions are readily exposed as just that. But this particularly belief is beyond moronic. No respect whatsoever ought to be accorded such BS.

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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NoNukes
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Message 907 of 928 (758713)
05-31-2015 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 899 by Faith
05-31-2015 3:10 AM


Re: Turing Test
It was the papacy as a system that was identified as Antichrist by Luther for sure but others as well, with or without an idea of a Final Antichrist who would embody all the biblical specifics in one person. Yes the idea fell out of favor and some strenuously argued against it
It fell out of favor for good reason. The entire idea is inane and as you acknowledge, non-Biblical. There is an Anti-Christ in the Bible, and it isn't some already dead pope or line of popes. The idea of the line of popes being the anti-Christs is made up out of whole cloth.
but the Reformers' reasoning is very compelling.
I've noticed that you find lots of superstitions compelling. But again, the idea in question here simply isn't Biblical. I suspect that you don't even recall the reasoning. Yet the idea itself is locked in your head along side some pretty silly ideas about biology and geology.
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Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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NoNukes
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Message 909 of 928 (758715)
05-31-2015 2:45 PM
Reply to: Message 897 by Faith
05-31-2015 2:48 AM


Re: Inquisition still continuing
es. I'd have to check sources but the argument is that they had Christian denominations in mind and never any idea of other religions, because that's how Christian the nation was at the time.
So in your mind, when the constitution said that there would be no religious tests for public office, that somehow exclude tests for Christianity? Perhaps you need to reconsider your argument.

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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NoNukes
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Message 917 of 928 (758725)
05-31-2015 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 912 by Faith
05-31-2015 3:08 PM


Re: Turing Test
You have a knack for misreading me that I can never anticipate. I wasn't saying that the idea is non-Biblical at all, I merely happened to mention that the biblical specifics of an individual Antichrist might or might not also be part of the analysis.
That's your defense? It might or might not be?
The idea that a line of popes is the Anti-Christ is non-Biblical. If you want to deny that I can infer that you know that from what you've posted, so be it.
Telling me Luther said it just tells me that you raise Luther to the level of Jesus and the Bible. It is not an argument that your premise is Biblical. Luther was also an anti-Semite. I guess that raises hating Jews to being Biblical as well.
We understand that human decency is beyond you. But don't blame that crap on the Bible. Your hatred of Catholics is on you and your willingness to treat non-Christians as a lower caste, and your lack of even the slightest amount of empathy for your fellow man is all yours no matter where you claim to have learned it.
Not commenting further on this. I'm too disgusted.
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Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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