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jar
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Message 869 of 928 (758655)
05-30-2015 8:28 AM
Reply to: Message 854 by Faith
05-29-2015 9:31 PM


Re: Inquisition still continuing
Faith writes:
Deporting Muslims because they are committed to killing people who don't believe as they do, requiring atheists to live under Christian laws, which don't deprive them of life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness, just require them not to blaspheme God essentially or teach against God; depriving people of alien views that are hostile to the present government of the power to destroy that government, all this is treated as "the greatest threat the US faces.
So under your benign freedom when I point out that the Bible says mankind has the same knowledge of right and wrong as God does and that when God is acting immorally it is man's duty to correct God and that the God found in Genesis 2&3 is not very bright and learning on the job and thinks men should have sex with their clones would that be acceptable to teach?
Would I be allowed to hold office?

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jar
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Message 886 of 928 (758687)
05-30-2015 9:32 PM
Reply to: Message 883 by Faith
05-30-2015 9:21 PM


Re: Inquisition still continuing
Faith writes:
Unfortunately they unwittingly set a precedent that allowed all the anti-Christian hatred we see at EvC to flourish as it does today.
Yet more falsehoods from you it seems Faith. What anti-Christian hatred is seen at EvC? Can you give us links to the messages since I have never come across any.

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jar
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Message 905 of 928 (758710)
05-31-2015 9:31 AM


Reality instead of fantasy
Despite Faith's fantastic assertions that there is any attempt to get rid of Christianity in the US the reality is that even before there were States the country and its citizenry were increasingly secular. Even in strongly Methodist and Baptist Virginia most folk just didn't go to church. Sunday horse races took precedence over Sunday Church most everywhere.
What folk were aware of though was the threat that was the various Christian denominations. Several of the Colonies had been created specifically as refuges from other Christian sects and if they were to ever become States, part of a Union, then there needed to be some method that assured no sect could ever gain political power.
The result in Religious Colony after Religious Colony with the exception New England was the establishment of conditions in their constitutions requiring religious freedom. Not all the colonies were established based on religion.
The first British Colony was Virginia and it was a commercial secular venture, not religious. Georgia was also a secular venture and not religious. New York, Delaware, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Delaware, North and South Carolina were also all initially commercial endeavors. So at least nine of the original thirteen colonies were secular commercial creations as opposed to religious.

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Message 908 of 928 (758714)
05-31-2015 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 907 by NoNukes
05-31-2015 2:26 PM


Re: Turing Test
Plus Luther did not identify the Pope as the Antichrist and in fact in his 95 Thesis supports the authority of the Pope and Papacy.

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jar
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Message 911 of 928 (758717)
05-31-2015 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 910 by Faith
05-31-2015 2:58 PM


the absurdity of the Pope as Antichrist
Yet in the 95 Thesis Luther did support the authority of the Pope and Papacy.
But even beyond that, to make the claim today that the Pope is the Antichrist is simply silly. No even one characteristic of a Antichrist fits the Pope or Papacy.
Today such claims are just laughable, yet more evidence that the Christian Cult of Ignorance is founded upon dishonesty and marketing hate to the gullible.
It is yet another evidence that the CCoI really is the greatest threat the US faces.

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jar
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Message 916 of 928 (758724)
05-31-2015 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 914 by Faith
05-31-2015 3:16 PM


Re: the absurdity of the Pope as Antichrist
Faith writes:
Well, the idea is not popular among Christians so you can drop your smear of all Christians.
Again you simply post falsehoods, Faith. As a Christian I most certainly do not smear all Christians and have tried to always carefully delineate that I am speaking about the Christian Cult of Ignorance and not all Christians.
And of course Hitler was also certainly no AntiChrist though he certainly was a Christian.
But you still have shown no example of persecution of Christians in the US or any reason to think that the Roman Catholic Church is not Christian or that the Pope is some anti-Christ or that there will ever be some anti-Christ or if it would even matter.

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Message 922 of 928 (758731)
05-31-2015 5:40 PM


reformation positions
The main people seen as leaders of the reformation, Luther, Calvin, Knox, Zwingli, Henry, John, James, Mary, Mary, Elizabeth and the rest were ignorant of much that we know today and morally bankrupt compared to today and almost anyone today. They were wrong about human rights, women's rights, racial rights as well as civil rights and so their opinions on such subjects or anything involving reality and science are pretty much worthless.
Edited by jar, : left out a conjunction so does that mean conjuctionitist?

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Message 924 of 928 (758734)
05-31-2015 7:23 PM
Reply to: Message 923 by RAZD
05-31-2015 6:07 PM


Re: The Golden Rule
And if folk read the Bible even Jesus takes the position that common sense also takes precedence over the laws. If your ass falls in a crack on the Sabbath you pull it out even if it is work.

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jar
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Message 926 of 928 (758736)
05-31-2015 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 925 by Faith
05-31-2015 8:49 PM


Re: The Reformers on Antichrist
Again, as has been pointed out, what does that have to do with anything? Martin Luther was wrong about so many things and ignorant of so much that what he thought is of absolutely no relevance or worth when discussing today, morality or the US. The man was an ignorant antisemitic fanatic unfit to be in polite company today.
Second, First Principles is a collection of Martin Luther's writings which you are quoting out of context from a site that is simply more examples of taking quotes out of context; a classic example of the dishonesty of so many of today's Christian propaganda mills.

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