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JarYou must be a short guy. Things just go over your head.List the number of Muslims who do not follow, in the most part, Sharia law.Yes. I recognize that more are voting secular but in most countries it is a fragile secularism.Regards
DL

RingoNot mine but the revisions proposed by their own less fundamental adherents. They are supposed to be the vast majority. Or so the rumors say.Let the peace loving Muslims put their money where their mouths are.Regards
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Moving the goal posts instead of dealing with reality. Gish Gallop. Recognize it.Whether or not a Muslim follows Sharia law has nothing to do with anyone who is not a Muslim and is not a threat to anyone. Do you even have a clue what Sharia law is or involves?Sharia law is only applicable in Nation states when it has been sanctioned.If a people wish to follow their own laws and that is the decision of the Nation where they are citizens then why should I object? I may not approve of their laws and may even disapprove of them, I may speak out against those laws and in fact even condemn those laws but other than expressing my personal opinion there is little I can do.

So you have no realistic proposal at all. You might as well try to solve the US' problems by having the Democrats set the Republicans straight.

FaithKeep on target dear.We were not arguing about gays. We were discussing how even Christians cannot agree on the same biblical interpretation of the same words.But as to gays. Strange that your religion that preaches love above all else, is putting sexual preference above all else.Further.WHEN SAME-SEX MARRIAGE WAS A CHRISTIAN RITE1And further still.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KLzODXFyPsHave you noted just how many of your fellow Christians abort instead of keeping their --- mistakes?Regards
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Canada does not have Sharia but we have our share of Honor killings like most countries who do not have Sharia law."Whether or not a Muslim follows Sharia law has nothing to do with anyone who is not a Muslim"It does to all members of the human race.Unless of course you enjoy watching gays or fornicators get stoned to death or the fact that a woman in Saudi Arabia cannot go out without a male escort.Regards
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Wasn't I clear? TRUE Christians DO agree on the CORRECT interpretation. Take it or leave it.

RingoIn your sick two party system, who else is there to do it?Or vice versa as required?Regards
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FaithI know of no true Christian.Those, so your WORD says, have given everything up to follow Jesus. They are a rare breed indeed.Regards
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You're talking about a two-party system: moderate Muslims versus extremist Muslims. How is it a real solution to tell one side to switch?

So once again, as with Islam and Christianity and the Bible and the Qur'an, Sharia law is not the problem.Are you beginning to see a pattern yet? It is not a matter of whether I enjoy "watching gays or fornicators get stoned to death or the fact that a woman in Saudi Arabia cannot go out without a male escort", it is a matter of my nationality. I am a US Citizen and in the US it is illegal to stone gays or fornicators and a woman can go out without a male escort.I may not approve of Saudi Arabia's laws and I can try to educate them to change their position but that is all I can do.Once again, you need to stop showing your ignorance. Nothing you have mentioned is related to the Bible, the Qur'an, Sharia law, being Christian or being Muslim.Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

RingoI was talking of your two political party system.That aside.Are the right wing Muslims more likely to listen to other Muslims or more likely to listen to non-Muslims?Correct. Muslims.Now all we have to do is get the more reasonable left leaning Muslims to move their right wing brothers to a better way of interpreting their Qur'an and or modifying it to suit the way it has been modified before.Regards
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Jar"So once again, as with Islam and Christianity and the Bible and the Qur'an, Sharia law is not the problem.Are you beginning to see a pattern yet?"---------------------Yes. A pattern of you saying that a religious problem has nothing to do with religion.You like to use ignorant for me. You are a lot worse and I do not take your kind of abuse will so if you want to chat, smarten up.I have dealt with your ignorance so far by ignoring it.Do it again and I will ignore you.Regards
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And here is yet more you can learn.The Christian Cult of Ignorance like every Cult of Ignorance can only continue to exist by ignoring truth and reality, by avoiding discussion. You are of course free to simply ignore truth and reality when you are being taught but all that does is prevent you from learning.You have said that Canada does not have Sharia law yet you say there are "Honor killings there" so Sharia law is not the issue.Books are inanimate objects and so they cannot do anything so the Bible and Qur'an cannot be the enemy.The Qur'an is not a Constitution and Muslim nations do have Constitutions so to claim the Qur'an is a constitution is yet again simply a falsehood.Not all Muslims define Jihad in the negative way you portray and so Jihad is not the problem.Muslims learn from more sources than just the Qur'an as the existence of Muslim doctors, lawyers, scientists, teachers, shop keepers, financiers, politicians and all the other professions where they contribute proves.You are the only person in this thread who has said people should be killed.Ignorance, specifically in this instance, your ignorance demonstrated in this and many other threads you have started over the years is the problem and just as with all ignorance the solution is not to ignore the ignorance but rather to try to educate the ignorant.I hope this helps you and will pray and work towards your enlightenment.

What makes what I believe any more wishful thinking that you believe. Chris Hitchens, (who I actually enjoyed). used to say that He didn't want there to be a god of any kind. That would make what he believed to be wishful thinking. That emperor came along three centuries later and responded to an already well establish Christianity. I have never claimed anything as proof but only as evidence. Of course, but if we accept that the natural processes are the result of pre-existing intelligence then that allows for the possibility that there is a truth that can be discerned about that intelligence whether it be by philosophy, revelation or science. I know what you mean about the differences in the beliefs of Christians. I haven't been able to find anyone else who has it all figured out correctly. I don't adhere to the Christianity that you just described either. I don't disagree with the thought that many early Christians thought that Jesus would return in their life times. However I suggest that it was because they had just had Jesus with them recently and so it would be somewhat reasonable to think that it would all happen sooner rather than later. There have always been those who said that it's going to happen any day now.