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Author Topic:   Jihadists must die, --- but our real enemies are the Qur’an and Bible.
ringo
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Message 55 of 375 (758961)
06-06-2015 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Greatest I am
06-06-2015 11:30 AM


Re: The End of the End of Faith
Greatest I am writes:
I am a Gnostic Christian and a cut above Christians and Muslims in terms or equality, which we tie to righteousness.
You're better at equality than your inferiors? Are you also more humble than us mere mortals?

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Message 72 of 375 (758999)
06-07-2015 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Greatest I am
06-06-2015 3:27 PM


Re: The End of the End of Faith
Greatest I am writes:
Humble is overrated.
Humility is overrated by the arrogant. Oddly enough, arrogance is associated with ignorance more often than it is with gnowledge.

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Message 100 of 375 (759052)
06-08-2015 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by Greatest I am
06-07-2015 4:04 PM


Re: The End of the End of Faith
Greatest I am writes:
Not by the intelligent.
Intelligent people communicate in sentences.
You say, "Jihadists must die," but jihadidts want to die for their god. How is giving them exactly what they want intelligent?

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Message 104 of 375 (759059)
06-08-2015 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Greatest I am
06-08-2015 12:45 PM


Re: The End of the End of Faith
Greatest I am writes:
I would prefer to convert/cure them of their foolish beliefs but that seems to be a loosing proposition thanks to their deep indoctrination/brain washing.
But by killing them you're just encouraging more converts. You're not cleaning up the mess; you're just spreading the dirt around. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is closer to insanity than it is to intelligence.

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Message 130 of 375 (759155)
06-09-2015 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Faith
06-09-2015 8:31 AM


Re: "But the second stone, up for grabs."
Faith writes:
I was born with a ton of sin in me....
I take full credit for all of my sins.

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ringo
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Message 157 of 375 (759300)
06-10-2015 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by Greatest I am
06-09-2015 6:46 PM


Re: The End of the End of Faith
Greatest I am writes:
Kill the brain dead today and prevent the brain dead of tomorrow by taking away what is causing them.
If we killed all of the stupid people, the human race would be extinct. Much of our history consists of protecting the terminally stupid.
Greatest I am writes:
To do nothing which is what we have been doing and expect change would be a sign of insanity.
On the contrary, change is constant. If you wait long enough by the river, the bodies of your enemies will float past.

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Message 160 of 375 (759310)
06-10-2015 4:01 PM
Reply to: Message 158 by Greatest I am
06-10-2015 3:50 PM


Re: The End of the End of Faith
Greatest I am writes:
Brain dead is what I used and we tend not to try to keep those around too long.
You said, "Kill the brain dead today and prevent the brain dead of tomorrow by taking away what is causing them." You can't prevent the Qur'an from effecting tomorrow's generation by killing today's followers of the Qur'an.

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ringo
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Message 165 of 375 (759320)
06-10-2015 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 163 by Greatest I am
06-10-2015 4:06 PM


Re: The End of the End of Faith
Greatest I am writes:
You forgot the bit about taking away what is causing them. Their present version of the Qur'an.
That book has been revised before and it can happen again.
How do you propose to "take away" the Qur'an? Do you think the Jihadists are likely to accept your revisions?

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ringo
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Message 169 of 375 (759330)
06-10-2015 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 167 by Greatest I am
06-10-2015 4:13 PM


Re: The End of the End of Faith
Greatest I am writes:
Not mine but the revisions proposed by their own less fundamental adherents. They are supposed to be the vast majority. Or so the rumors say.
Let the peace loving Muslims put their money where their mouths are.
So you have no realistic proposal at all. You might as well try to solve the US' problems by having the Democrats set the Republicans straight.

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ringo
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Message 175 of 375 (759340)
06-10-2015 4:38 PM
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06-10-2015 4:29 PM


Re: The End of the End of Faith
Greatest I am writes:
In your sick two party system, who else is there to do it?
You're talking about a two-party system: moderate Muslims versus extremist Muslims. How is it a real solution to tell one side to switch?

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Message 188 of 375 (759511)
06-12-2015 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 177 by Greatest I am
06-11-2015 2:09 PM


Re: The End of the End of Faith
Greatest I am writes:
I was talking of your two political party system.
I don't have a two-party system. I'm Canadian.
You were suggesting that the moderate Muslims should just tell the radical Muslims to be nice and I was drawing a parallel to ANY political system: your solution would be to just have one party do what the other party suggests; it's unworkable.
Greatest I am writes:
Are the right wing Muslims more likely to listen to other Muslims or more likely to listen to non-Muslims?
Neither.

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ringo
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Message 191 of 375 (759515)
06-12-2015 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by Greatest I am
06-12-2015 12:31 PM


Re: The End of the End of Faith
Greatest I am writes:
Unworkable?
How would we know when we have not made the attempt?
Oh come on. Nobody has suggested to moderate Muslims that they should politely ask radicals to be more moderate? It's been done. It doesn't work.
Greatest I am writes:
You are saying that the right cannot compromise with the left and that is just silly.
You're not suggesting compromise. You're suggesting that one side should voluntarily disband.

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ringo
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Message 193 of 375 (759517)
06-12-2015 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 192 by Greatest I am
06-12-2015 12:55 PM


Re: The End of the End of Faith
Greatest I am writes:
Just to move toward the center or left.
That can be sold as progress.
But why would either side move in the direction YOU choose? What incentive is there for radical Muslims to do what YOU want?

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ringo
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Message 201 of 375 (759589)
06-13-2015 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 194 by Greatest I am
06-12-2015 7:22 PM


Re: The End of the End of Faith
Greatest I am writes:
To just not do anything about jihadist creation by Islam after this last round of war and killing would just insure that we have to kill more of them later.
Killing them doesn't work. Every martyr inspires two more jihadists. Diplomatically asking them to agree with you doesn't work. You can't even get anybody on this forum to agree with you.
When the choice is between doing nothing and doing something that doesn't work, let's do nothing. It's cheaper.

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Message 231 of 375 (759809)
06-15-2015 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 226 by Greatest I am
06-15-2015 10:13 AM


Re: The End of the End of Faith
Greatest I am writes:
For evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing.
Evil will also grow if "good" people do evil.

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