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ramoss
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Message 3391 of 5179 (758000)
05-18-2015 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 3389 by Percy
05-18-2015 7:47 AM


Re: Biker Fight
I am sure glad none of those Poor Girls that work in that restaurant were injured.

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1.61803
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Message 3392 of 5179 (758013)
05-18-2015 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 3391 by ramoss
05-18-2015 10:53 AM


Re: Biker Fight
According to the Waco PD spokesperson, no civillians and no Law Enforcement were injured. 9 bikers doa and 192 arrest so far.
Twin Peaks closed for 7 days and has had their franchise revoked by the company.
Way to go Twin Peaks, I can see that staff meeting: Lets allow a outlaw biker gang to hold recruitment activities in our breasturant.
"Hey that sounds like a grand way to make some serious cash!"

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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anglagard
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Message 3393 of 5179 (758060)
05-19-2015 3:26 AM
Reply to: Message 3389 by Percy
05-18-2015 7:47 AM


Re: Biker Fight
Percy writes:
I think more guns is the answer.
The Cossacks have a local chapter house around a mile up the same road from where I work. All these guys my age seem to do is "toys for tots" or "the chile cookoff." Who would have thought?
But then I suppose some Cossacks are capable of "rioting."*
*Rioting - a term used to connote mass acts of disobedience and lawlessness except in the USA where the term is never applied to white people.
Supp. - See racist mass media.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon

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ramoss
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Message 3394 of 5179 (758140)
05-20-2015 7:40 AM
Reply to: Message 3392 by 1.61803
05-18-2015 2:57 PM


Re: Biker Fight
It's worse than 'let's have bikers recuiit'. They had reoccurring biker nights to attract their business, and were warned by the police that is not a good idea. The waitresses said there were always fights on Biker night. The management did not cooperate with the police or take the warnings seriously.
As as result, all this girls are without a job. Now, they have to find another job that takes advantage of their obvious assets.

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1.61803
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Message 3395 of 5179 (758146)
05-20-2015 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 3394 by ramoss
05-20-2015 7:40 AM


Re: Biker Fight
ramoss writes:
As as result, all this girls are without a job. Now, they have to find another job that takes advantage of their obvious assets.
Word on the street is,
H(.)(.)TERS is hiring.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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ringo
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Message 3396 of 5179 (758160)
05-20-2015 4:06 PM
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05-20-2015 7:40 AM


Re: Biker Fight
ramoss writes:
They had reoccurring biker nights to attract their business, and were warned by the police that is not a good idea.
Our local bikers hang out at Tim Hortons. One night they foiled a robbery at the gas station next door.

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Message 3397 of 5179 (758166)
05-20-2015 8:37 PM
Reply to: Message 3396 by ringo
05-20-2015 4:06 PM


Re: Biker Fight
One night they foiled a robbery at the gas station next door.
I can imagine it went something like this:
The biggest biker, the one with arms and legs as thick as saplings, sauntered across the street and said,
"Look here. You must desist. This is not the Canadian way."
The perpetrator looked up, said,
"Oh. OK," dropping his tie iron in a trash bin as he walked away.
When the Mounties arrived on horseback singing Ride Forever the bikers joined in, in harmony, and passed around Canadian Bay Breezes in those Mason jars, the ones with the handles on them. Then they all sang a few stanzas from The Lumberjack Song as the Mounties rode off into the snow drifts.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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ringo
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Message 3398 of 5179 (758188)
05-21-2015 11:57 AM
Reply to: Message 3397 by AZPaul3
05-20-2015 8:37 PM


Re: Biker Fight
AZPaul3 writes:
I can imagine it went something like this....
Actually, it went more like this:
One of the bikers, with arms and legs as thick as tree-trunks, sauntered across the street and said,
"I'm sorry. You must desist. This is not the Canadian way."
The perpetrator looked up, said,
"Oh. I'm sorry," dropping his bent pin in a trash bin as he walked away.
When the Mounties arrived on horseback singing I AM Canadian the bikers joined in, in harmony, and bought a round of Tim Hortons double-doubles and maple-dip doughnuts. Then they all sang a few stanzas from The Lumberjack Song as the Mounties rode off into the snow drifts.

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ramoss
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Message 3399 of 5179 (758367)
05-24-2015 2:18 PM


It will be hard to prosecute
According to some experts, it will be hard to prosecute these folks, because there will be a lot of 'self defense' claims (they feared for their life).
In chaos of deadly Texas gang fight, self-defense claims may abound

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1.61803
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Message 3400 of 5179 (758548)
05-28-2015 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 3399 by ramoss
05-24-2015 2:18 PM


Re: It will be hard to prosecute
Article writes:
"If they are there in a public place, legally armed, they can argue they were using self-defense," said Susan Klein, a professor of law at the University of Texas with expertise in criminal law.
*bolding mine* The rub will be "legally armed."
I wonder how many of the 170+ bikers will be able to produce a conceal handgun lic. The other offense will be if they where carrying a firearm in a bar which is also illegal in Texas. Some may get off on the self defense claim though most likely depending on what video evidence is available.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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vimesey
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Message 3401 of 5179 (759528)
06-12-2015 4:23 PM


Another one bites the dust.
US toddler kills himself with mother's gun - BBC News
Another sacrifice on the altar.
And I notice the prosecutors are racing to say they're considering prosecution. Because never let it be thought that there could be any collective responsibility for these tragedies - it's all the fault of other people.
Sigh
Edited by vimesey, : No reason given.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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MrHambre
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Message 3402 of 5179 (759531)
06-12-2015 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 3401 by vimesey
06-12-2015 4:23 PM


One in the chamba...or the child
Come on now. What the liberal media doesn't report is how many three-year-olds handle firearms and don't kill themselves.

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vimesey
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Message 3403 of 5179 (759532)
06-12-2015 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 3402 by MrHambre
06-12-2015 5:31 PM


Re: One in the chamba...or the child
True - damned pinko BBC :-)

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Jon
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Message 3404 of 5179 (759536)
06-12-2015 7:38 PM
Reply to: Message 3401 by vimesey
06-12-2015 4:23 PM


Re: Another one bites the dust.
Because never let it be thought that there could be any collective responsibility for these tragedies - it's all the fault of other people.
Isn't it collective responsibility that tries putting fault on 'other people'?
Prosecuting the negligent mother puts fault directly where the fault belongs.

Love your enemies!

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Message 3405 of 5179 (759538)
06-12-2015 8:28 PM
Reply to: Message 3401 by vimesey
06-12-2015 4:23 PM


Re: Another one bites the dust.
I notice the prosecutors are racing to say they're considering prosecution.
I assumed that this statement was some of that wry and dry British humor taking a pot shot at US prosecutors. Under US law, there is no real reason not to carry a gun in your purse in many jurisdictions, and it is absolutely required that women let go of their purses at some point. I suppose that the real criminal in this sad affair, namely the gun wielding three year old, has already been punished enough.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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