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Author | Topic: Jihadists must die, --- but our real enemies are the Qur’an and Bible. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
He said we say Not three Persons but one Person. Got that wrong. We say one God,.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith
IOW. You cannot back your statement with anything biblical. Strange that you morals tell you that you have no moral responsibility to prove your false witness. I find your cherry picking dishonest as shown by statements you do not back up and that are refuted by scriptures. For instance ----- That God can die, while stating that 1/3 of God can somehow die. "only the body dies." while ignoring that God says to fear the one who can kill the soul. "His was resurrected" for which you have no proof and if he did then there was no real sacrifice. Right? "He suffered God's withdrawing His presence" If God is one as you say, then he cannot get away from himself any more that you can get away from yourself. " as Hell is said to be primarily the absence of God." While your scriptures say that God is Omni-present. You also say that Jesus was sinless while scriptures say he had to learn from his disobedience and that he threw a fit at the temple which many see as a sin. You also say God does not want or like human sacrifice yet that was his first choice for his first judgement as God even before the first sin. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake Either you are trying to lie to us or scriptures are. RegardsDL
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
ringo
Are you suggesting that the troops presently fighting and killing jihadists are doing evil? Should we move them out of the area and let ISIS just do whatever it likes? RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith
"I couldn't care less what ignorant logic-choppers have to say. " You obviously follow this Christian thinking. Martin Luther.Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding. Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has. You definitely do not follow this wiser scripture. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good. You are holding on to what is evil and calling it good. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith
The fact that Christians like you hate those like me who shows that your ilk cannot justify the immoral tenets you follow and that is why you hate us. Come and argue with reason and logic and we will convert you away from following your satanic God. Jesus has a better way for you. Have a look and repent from your evil ways. Gnostic Christians are perpetual seekers after God. God here I define God as the best laws and rules to live life with. We believe that those laws and rules, as Jesus said, are found in our minds/hearts. I use the following to try to illustrate this notion. A bit of history and then a mindset and method to do what I promote. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&l... The thinking shown below is the Gnostic Christian’s goal as taught by Jesus but know that any belief can be internalized to activate your higher mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=playe... This method and mind set is how you become I am and brethren to Jesus, in the esoteric sense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y When you can name your God, I am, and mean yourself, you will begin to know the only God you will ever find. Becoming a God is to become more fully human and a brethren to Jesus. RegardsDL
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Greatest I am writes:
Yes.
Are you suggesting that the troops presently fighting and killing jihadists are doing evil? Greatest I am writes:
ISIS does whatever it likes anyway. The war is already lost. Should we move them out of the area and let ISIS just do whatever it likes? The battle SHOULD have been for hearts and minds, not an everlasting body count.
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mikechell Inactive Member |
... He suffered God's withdrawing His presence from Him on the cross ... So, about the 9th hour of the crucifixion ... the quote SHOULD have read, "ME, ME, why hast thou forsaken me?" Forgive me, Faith. I am not really trying to belittle your beliefs. I am trying to illustrate the ease at which the words of your bible can be twisted to mean just about anything.I stand by the fact that any religious book can be used to teach people good ways to live their lives. But the books can also be misused ... used to bring out the worst in people. evidence over faith ... observation over theory
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
ANYTHING can be misused, so you are making a useless and offensive point. Though I have no idea what that ridiculous point is intended to be anyway.
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mikechell Inactive Member |
Are you suggesting that the troops presently fighting and killing jihadists are doing evil?
Yes.ISIS does whatever it likes anyway. The war is already lost.
Not true. The war is only perceived lost because we are held back by bleeding hearts who think you can "win the hearts" of Radical Islamist. Those people are taught that the ONLY way to "heaven" is through destruction of all who are NOT of their faith.The battle SHOULD have been for hearts and minds, not an everlasting body count. So, the only way to prevent them from turning the world into their "caliphate", is to stop them where they are and destroy them before they destroy us. evidence over faith ... observation over theory
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Ungrateful bastards That invasion of Iraq went so well for the people there it is surprising that all are not sending us gifts all the time.
You really need to try a dose of what really is going on in the world. The US government is responsible for the growth of Islamic radicals. Prior to the invasion of Iraq we had just a couple small groups that we had to worry about. Now we have radicalized millions.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
mikechell writes:
They're doing it wrong.
Our people, and other Country's people are trying to do what they must to prevent evil from spreading. mikechell writes:
Another conspiracy theory.
If we were allowed to complete the mission, ISIS would already be stopped. mikechell writes:
We need to win the hearts and minds of the NON-RADICALS.
The war is only perceived lost because we are held back by bleeding hearts who think you can "win the hearts" of Radical Islamist. mikechell writes:
And another domino theory?
So, the only way to prevent them from turning the world into their "caliphate", is to stop them where they are and destroy them before they destroy us.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith
The last bastion of a loser is to attack the person and not the issues at hand. That aside. As you can see, the serpent is well spoken of in scriptures. Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Genesis 3 ;3 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. I think that the reason Christianity reversed the moral of the Eden story from the elevation of man that the Jews put to it, to a fall that denigrated both the serpent and women, was so that Christianity could justify it's misogynistic policy as well as vilify the serpent cults that were all over the world at that time. You should remember that, according to your religion, you are not fit to teach the men here. I class myself as a feminist even though a man, in order to elevate women to the full class citizens they are even though the church says you are second class. You should remember that as you allow your smaller mind to speak. Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 302 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
ringo
I agree with the notion that their hearts and minds is what we should conquer. That means education of those minds to a better way of thinking and that means ending the garbage that they are learning today from their holy books. Note how it all comes down to the Qur'an and where the evil starts and as the O.P. pointed out from the beginning. RegardsDL RegardsDL
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