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Who buys a gun just for protection?

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A lot of people seem to think that it is an important reason - especially for handguns.How many people think that avoiding starvation is an important reason for going out for supper ?

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My guess is that folks who buy and own guns hope that they never find themselves in a situation where they have to use them to protect themselves.

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People who buy insurance policies hope that they never have to claim on them. But still that's a major reason for buying them - and often enough the only reason.

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I did explain it; when I used the word 'policies' and not 'government policies'.

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So you didn't explain it.

Smart guns may not be readily available yet but biometric gun locks and safes are. The safety problem, though, is that people aren't using the safety measures that are already available, including the old-fashioned gun locks and safes.

Really?A lot of women who buy hand guns are just waiting desperately for that moment when they find themselves under a rapist and can pull that gun from their nearby purse to shoot him?Really? Are you aware that you're more likely to spend more money, over all, on insurance than what you will ever receive in a payout?Is buying insurance wrong? There's nothing to explain. The assumption that I was talking only about 'government' policies was your assumption. Why don't you tell us why you like reading things that aren't there?

Because those safety measures make the guns useless for the purpose they're being bought for.Most people won't feel any safer knowing there is a gun locked in a safe in the garage than they will knowing there is a gun locked in a display cabinet at Wal-Mart.People want the gun on them. So the safety improvements need to address that situation.

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Really?

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A lot of women who buy hand guns are just waiting desperately for that moment when they find themselves under a rapist and can pull that gun from their nearby purse to shoot him?

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That isn't what I said. In fact I think that it is seen more like insurance - something that you hope not to need, but are glad to have if you do need it.

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Are you aware that you're more likely to spend more money, over all, on insurance than what you will ever receive in a payout?

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Is buying insurance wrong?

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Yes, I am aware of that. But then I understand the concept of insurance. The point of a good insurance policy is to cushion serious blows, turn them into something that is at least financially survivable. People buy insurance policies to reduce the risk of things going REALLY bad, not to make a profit. Fraud excepted.

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There's nothing to explain. The assumption that I was talking only about 'government' policies was your assumption.

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Of course there is something to explain,. What "policies" were you talking about ? Here's the text again:

If that's what you wanted, why didn't you just ask that from the beginning instead of trying to get me to explain why I didn't mean 'government policies' when I didn't say 'government policies'?The policies can be policies of stores that advertise safer guns to the kind of people likely to buy a gun for safety; or gun manufacturers who see the potential for a market (if there is one) and decide to make safer guns.Also government policies.You see, 'policies' is an inclusive term; it refers to all sorts of policies. Whatever you can imagine that fits into the other parameters of my description of said policies.

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If that's what you wanted, why didn't you just ask that from the beginning instead of trying to get me to explain why I didn't mean 'government policies' when I didn't say 'government policies'?

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I did ask that as soon as you told me that - despite the context suggesting otherwise - you didn't mean government policies. You evaded the issue.But OK. I'm satisfied now that you did mean government policies.

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Another crazy with a gun. Of course we will have the same conversations and the same arguments for and against gun control and people will still keep dying. I do not know what the answer is but this is just horrible.

This is a case where I think maybe the person who gave him the gun for his birthday -- his father? -- should be held accountable.ABE: Well, now they're saying he bought it himself with money given to him for his birthday.ABE: First time I've felt anything for the kid: He's confessed, he's on suicide watch in jail, he's allowed visitors but nobody's visited. He did a horrible innsayne evil thing and he's going to pay for it, but I can't help but think he was living so completely inside his own crazed head he had no real sense of what he was doing and I hope some from the Christian churches will visit and pray for him.ABE: Oh wonderful, the Christian people who lost family and friends in the shooting are standing up and forgiving him. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I don't think calling stupidity stupidity is ad hominem. It's stupid to think a gun will protect you. All of the support given in this thread shows that your guns are more likely to harm you and your loved ones than to protect them.

EXACTLY! Gun safety is a non-issue. Guns can not be made safe and effective at the same time. Even IF your science-fiction solutions become commonplace, there will still be millions of unsafe guns on the street. All of your science fiction will not make the nation safer.

Partly because he's evil, but mainly because small talk is gonna be excruciating."Hi, how's things going?""Whatcha been up to lately?"

It would have to be strangers, Christians, visiting him, ask to pray for him, ask him how he's feeling. He's pretty hard core it seems from all the information about his racist views coming out, but he's a kid, barely twenty one, apparently a loner despite identifying with white supremacist groups, and it seems like his life has been wrapped up in a narrow fantasy, like a dream he's about to wake up from in prison. My idea of him will probably change because this is still the first few days, but I don't have any similar feelings about Slager, who occupies the next cell over from him, and shot Walter Scott in cold blood without any provocation, then tried to cover it up. He should hear the gospel too of course, we're all sinners and it doesn't do to pretend any of us is above even the worst kinds of sins given the right circumstances.But this is way off topicABE: in case anyone wonders, I haven't changed my view of the death penalty for murder. Wilful murder requires it.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Given your position on these matters - What did you make of Obamas comments regarding the fact that these sorts of events keep on happening in the U.S. In a way, and with a frequency, that they don't in other developed nations? Is he wrong in what he suggests in your view?