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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yeah so was throwing us to the lions God's punishment of Christians I suppose. This is basically the opening salvo of a modern version of throwing Christians to the lions. Be sure you have enough popcorn to last you through the event.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Spoken like a true Christian-bashing gay marriage supporting constitutional revisionist. The Times They've Changed for sure oh happy day.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
True, murder is something else. I'm only talking about being punished for standing on God's word as we always have, as Christians always have for two thousand years. Poor poor America to criminalize us for that, because God won't put up with it for long.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You gonna be SO surprised. Except unless God gives you much mercy you'll attribute it to something else and go down with the ship.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
golly gee y'all know how to sling the poo.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Separate but equal? Perhaps you don't remember when this argument was supposedly all about the economic benefits of marriage, which should be well enough dealt with by a legal union that aimed to guarantee such benefits. Now we're told no, it's all about dignity, being treated like heterosexuals. It never was about just benefits. Or for that matter even about dignity. It's always been about destroying the institution of marriage and you can find gay activists saying that in so many words.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's always been about destroying the institution of marriage ...
Curiously, I don't see any drop off in people getting married ... can you show any sudden drop off since this Supreme Court decision? Curiously you are nuts and a half to think anybody meant it would happen right away. Give it a generation.
... and you can find gay activists saying that in so many words.
Please do so. (not holding my breath). HERE'S a Google page on the subject. Perhaps you don't remember when this argument was supposedly all about the economic benefits of marriage ...
Indeed, AND how it was morally offensive to deny those benefits to a class of people, AND how that could only be guaranteed by including gay marriage in the human family of married people ... because anything less would be like the failed "Separate but equal" treatment of blacks at the beginning of the '60's civil rights movements. Because it never was equal. Blacks find the comparison offensive and so do I. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The Old Testament description of early marriages suggests that there was no ceremony, just the taking of the chosen wife into the tent/dwelling of the man, which may have been validated by witnesses to the event. This seems to be how Isaac married Rebekah. Ceremonies no doubt grew up around it, and by the time of Jesus it involved a protracted period of engagement that was already called marriage, an unconsummated betrothal which was the state of Joseph and Mary when the angel announced that she was to bear the Messiah.
The parable of the five wise and five foolish virgins suggests a ritual that involved the groom-to-be's going away for a long time, to return unexpectedly for his bride. This is just a sketch of how marriage seems to have evolved in Israel. There are no doubt other customs that developed in other lands, but the bottom line was always a man and a woman who decided to make their lives together. But there's something wrong with any idea that Christians think we "control" marriage. The Christian objection to the SCOTUS ruling has nothing to do with the history of marriage as such, but to its redefinition from the ancient understanding that it unites a man and a woman, which corresponds to God's ordinance as described in the Bible. You all treat it as no big deal but a Bible believer is pushed into a corner by this ruling despite some "Christian" views to the contrary. Which is fine with you all and probably something we should regard as just another chunk of culture flattened under the wheels of the pagan juggernaut, disconcerting to us but in accord with Biblical prophecy, which we have to keep reminding ourselves. It would have been nice if the SCOTUS had made an effort to protect Christians from this situation while extending marriage benefits to gays, but although it seems that should have been possible it also seems they didn't care to protect us. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm sure the court could have found a way to protect Christians from losing jobs and businesses on account of the stand we must take for Biblical marriage, but they chose not to. This is in line with prophecy so of course we'll live with it, but this is a clear rejection of the true religion, the religion that built the west, and it's going to bring more of God's judgment down on the nation.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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