Understanding through Discussion


Welcome! You are not logged in. [ Login ]
EvC Forum active members: 84 (8915 total)
Current session began: 
Page Loaded: 07-17-2019 2:25 PM
28 online now:
AZPaul3, Hyroglyphx, PaulK, Percy (Admin) (4 members, 24 visitors)
Chatting now:  Chat room empty
Newest Member: 4petdinos
Happy Birthday: lopezeast0211
Post Volume:
Total: 856,864 Year: 11,900/19,786 Month: 1,681/2,641 Week: 190/708 Day: 17/40 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
RewPrev1
...
4445
46
4748
...
51Next
Author Topic:   Landmark gay marriage trial starts today in California
NoNukes
Inactive Member


(1)
Message 676 of 759 (760987)
06-26-2015 10:55 PM
Reply to: Message 672 by Bliyaal
06-26-2015 8:56 PM


No disrespect taken!

We don't typically use the word 'dudine' here. I had to look it up in order to poke fun at you. Turns out it was coined back in the 1800s.

By the way I, my wife is traveling this week. I called my wife here this evening to check on whether things were okay between us given that marriage had been redefined right underneath our very feet. She told me that she still loves me even though I spend too much time on EvC.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams


This message is a reply to:
 Message 672 by Bliyaal, posted 06-26-2015 8:56 PM Bliyaal has not yet responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 680 by Dr Adequate, posted 06-27-2015 2:38 AM NoNukes has not yet responded

  
Lammy
Member
Posts: 3611
From: Chicago
Joined: 03-29-2004


Message 677 of 759 (760991)
06-26-2015 11:11 PM
Reply to: Message 675 by Jon
06-26-2015 10:48 PM


Re: Love reign o'er Everyone!!!
Today in the US, christians everywhere are foaming at the mouth. Emergency rooms across America are overflowing with convulsing christians.
This message is a reply to:
 Message 675 by Jon, posted 06-26-2015 10:48 PM Jon has responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 685 by Jon, posted 06-27-2015 8:50 AM Lammy has not yet responded
 Message 687 by Pressie, posted 06-27-2015 11:24 AM Lammy has not yet responded

    
NoNukes
Inactive Member


Message 678 of 759 (760992)
06-26-2015 11:11 PM
Reply to: Message 675 by Jon
06-26-2015 10:48 PM


Re: Love reign o'er Everyone!!!
Today in the US, marriage is officially for everyone legally able to marry—which has always been the case.

Today is a historic day that even you cannot ruin, Jon. Read some poetry, dude!

Love is officially for everyone!


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams


This message is a reply to:
 Message 675 by Jon, posted 06-26-2015 10:48 PM Jon has responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 686 by Jon, posted 06-27-2015 8:50 AM NoNukes has not yet responded

  
NoNukes
Inactive Member


(1)
Message 679 of 759 (760995)
06-27-2015 1:34 AM
Reply to: Message 662 by Faith
06-26-2015 4:26 PM


I'm only talking about being punished for standing on God's word as we always have

Given that you don't own either a bakery or a tuxedo rental shop, it occurs to me that you are in little danger of real or perceived persecution. If you simply manage to not spit on some passing lesbians and if you can avoid tying a gay teen to a fence in Wyoming you can avoid legal prosecution completely. The above situation applies to about 99.99% of all people including Christians. Shouldn't be all that hard.

Yes, Christians were fed to lions back in the day. You trivialize their martyrdom with your whining.

Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams


This message is a reply to:
 Message 662 by Faith, posted 06-26-2015 4:26 PM Faith has not yet responded

  
Dr Adequate
Member
Posts: 16097
Joined: 07-20-2006


Message 680 of 759 (760999)
06-27-2015 2:38 AM
Reply to: Message 676 by NoNukes
06-26-2015 10:55 PM


By the way I, my wife is traveling this week. I called my wife here this evening to check on whether things were okay between us given that marriage had been redefined right underneath our very feet. She told me that she still loves me even though I spend too much time on EvC.

Gay marriage turned my wife into a newt.


This message is a reply to:
 Message 676 by NoNukes, posted 06-26-2015 10:55 PM NoNukes has not yet responded

  
Tangle
Member
Posts: 6950
From: UK
Joined: 10-07-2011
Member Rating: 5.1


Message 681 of 759 (761000)
06-27-2015 2:47 AM


Congratulations cousins, bloody well done :-)

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


  
saab93f
Member (Idle past 905 days)
Posts: 265
From: Finland
Joined: 12-17-2009


Message 682 of 759 (761005)
06-27-2015 5:01 AM
Reply to: Message 662 by Faith
06-26-2015 4:26 PM


True, murder is something else. I'm only talking about being punished for standing on God's word as we always have, as Christians always have for two thousand years. Poor poor America to criminalize us for that, because God won't put up with it for long.

What does it do while still "putting up"? It is just so bittersweet to observe the horrible state of affairs that devout christians have been put to. From all-powerful to equal, from judgmental to neutral and from vicious to tame. Boo-effing-hoo.


This message is a reply to:
 Message 662 by Faith, posted 06-26-2015 4:26 PM Faith has not yet responded

  
Heathen
Member
Posts: 1050
From: Brizzle
Joined: 09-20-2005


Message 683 of 759 (761006)
06-27-2015 5:59 AM
Reply to: Message 662 by Faith
06-26-2015 4:26 PM


God won't put up with it for long

Your god has "put up with" and indeed instigated death, torture, abuse, pain and misery on an unimaginable scale for millenia.

He has shown no interest in the suffering of innocents up to now, I suspect he will show even less interest in the claimed suffering of bigots after this ruling.


This message is a reply to:
 Message 662 by Faith, posted 06-26-2015 4:26 PM Faith has not yet responded

  
Tangle
Member
Posts: 6950
From: UK
Joined: 10-07-2011
Member Rating: 5.1


(2)
Message 684 of 759 (761008)
06-27-2015 7:32 AM
Reply to: Message 662 by Faith
06-26-2015 4:26 PM


Faith writes:

Poor poor America to criminalize us for that, because God won't put up with it for long.

Oh I expect he'll get over it. We can expect a drought and maybe a shower of frogs but then he'll just shrug and wonder whether he got it quite right when he made us this way. But as we're apparently made in his own image, he's got some thinking to do.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


This message is a reply to:
 Message 662 by Faith, posted 06-26-2015 4:26 PM Faith has not yet responded

  
Jon
Inactive Member


Message 685 of 759 (761016)
06-27-2015 8:50 AM
Reply to: Message 677 by Lammy
06-26-2015 11:11 PM


Re: Love reign o'er Everyone!!!
Today in the US, christians everywhere are foaming at the mouth. Emergency rooms across America are overflowing with convulsing christians.

Nonsense. Many Christians support the right for homosexuals to marry.

A majority of Americans in general also already supported homosexual marriage.

This was not that big of a deal when the Supreme Court ruled; politicians and the media just made it seem as though it was so they could continue to pull food off your plate and shingles off your house.


Love your enemies!

This message is a reply to:
 Message 677 by Lammy, posted 06-26-2015 11:11 PM Lammy has not yet responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 692 by Dr Adequate, posted 06-27-2015 2:33 PM Jon has acknowledged this reply

  
Jon
Inactive Member


(1)
Message 686 of 759 (761017)
06-27-2015 8:50 AM
Reply to: Message 678 by NoNukes
06-26-2015 11:11 PM


Re: Love reign o'er Everyone!!!
Love is an emotion and has always been for everyone.

Love your enemies!

This message is a reply to:
 Message 678 by NoNukes, posted 06-26-2015 11:11 PM NoNukes has not yet responded

  
Pressie
Member
Posts: 2074
From: Pretoria, SA
Joined: 06-18-2010
Member Rating: 2.7


(2)
Message 687 of 759 (761035)
06-27-2015 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 677 by Lammy
06-26-2015 11:11 PM


Re: Love reign o'er Everyone!!!
Most of the American co-workers involved in the project we're working on are devout Christians and none of them has any problems with gay marriages.
This message is a reply to:
 Message 677 by Lammy, posted 06-26-2015 11:11 PM Lammy has not yet responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 688 by anglagard, posted 06-27-2015 12:18 PM Pressie has responded

    
anglagard
Member
Posts: 2199
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006
Member Rating: 6.2


(1)
Message 688 of 759 (761042)
06-27-2015 12:18 PM
Reply to: Message 687 by Pressie
06-27-2015 11:24 AM


Re: Love reign o'er Everyone!!!
Pressie writes:

Most of the American co-workers involved in the project we're working on are devout Christians and none of them has any problems with gay marriages.

I know more gay Christians than Christians against same sex marriage, and I live in Texas. Guess my social circle would be considered unusual by some people.


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon

This message is a reply to:
 Message 687 by Pressie, posted 06-27-2015 11:24 AM Pressie has responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 689 by saab93f, posted 06-27-2015 12:58 PM anglagard has not yet responded
 Message 693 by Pressie, posted 06-28-2015 8:36 AM anglagard has not yet responded

    
saab93f
Member (Idle past 905 days)
Posts: 265
From: Finland
Joined: 12-17-2009


(1)
Message 689 of 759 (761046)
06-27-2015 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 688 by anglagard
06-27-2015 12:18 PM


Re: Love reign o'er Everyone!!!
I was pleasantly surprized altogether - hoping that this decision would in a way cement the USA's stance of "...and liberty for all" but then I made a mistake of visiting...let's say apparently not very progressive websites on my google-led journey through the internets.

The vitriol is totally and utterly incomprehensible. I knew that there might be people who are a bit peeved that their bigotry cannot continue but boy was I in for a shock. People of "The Good Book" came across as anything but - while I do know that there are compassionate Christians - even so that they are good human beings - the utter and relentless hate and evil portrayed by the commenters of theblaze.com are beyond my capability to understand.

I dare say that if they in any way form or fashion represent the Evangelical American, they are pretty close to those of ISIS. Full of hate and venom and NOTHING even remotely good or decent. Huh huh!!

Anyway, I'm happy that a person as "conservative" as Judge Kennedy can write such striking and compassionate statement.


This message is a reply to:
 Message 688 by anglagard, posted 06-27-2015 12:18 PM anglagard has not yet responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 690 by ringo, posted 06-27-2015 1:04 PM saab93f has responded

  
ringo
Member
Posts: 16806
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005
Member Rating: 3.4


(4)
Message 690 of 759 (761047)
06-27-2015 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 689 by saab93f
06-27-2015 12:58 PM


Re: Love reign o'er Everyone!!!
saab93f writes:

The vitriol is totally and utterly incomprehensible.


I think it's mostly the LOUD Christians who are protesting. If it wasn't gay marriage, they'd find something else for their doom-and-gloom-saying. It has nothing to do with religion, morality, etc. It's just a pathological need to be LOUD.
This message is a reply to:
 Message 689 by saab93f, posted 06-27-2015 12:58 PM saab93f has responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 691 by saab93f, posted 06-27-2015 2:13 PM ringo has acknowledged this reply

  
RewPrev1
...
4445
46
4748
...
51Next
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2018 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.0 Beta
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2019