Does God demand equality?

Does God demand equality?My Gnostic Christian God demands equality of all peoples as a part of our Universalists beliefs.Most religions also preach some form of equality yet also preach homophobia and misogyny. Why are most believers denying equality to the vast majority of those not in their particular religion as well as to many within their own circles?It seems that Gods do demand equality. Love thy neighbor as yourself, or some other reciprocity rule, are in every major religious tradition. It seems that the religious believe in equality just as little as they believe in their Gods who demand it. What happened to fearing God and doing as he commands?I cannot see the world solving its problems, be they religious or political, while the vast majority, the religious, deny equality to the other majority who are not of their particular religion. That religious hatred against gays, women and those in other religions must stop. Religious hate of others puts more hate than good into our societies and prevents rapprochement.We, as individuals, are quite good and altruistic. This is quite apparent if one looks at the statistics of our progress as a people in other moral areas. It is our religions and other social institutions and governments that are evil, not the people, as many governing hierarchies have institutionalized misogyny in their written policies.Our last great challenge against justice, our hate directed against gays and women must be set aside if the harder challenges we face, if there are any, are to be defeated.That hate is holding back our rise in being civilized people. I urge all men to look at their mothers, daughters and wives, and wonder why they do not see them as equal or demand that their religious laws make them so.I urge all women to ask the men in their lives why exactly they continue to promote the hate and inequality of gays and women through their support of homophobic and misogynous policies.Does your God demand equality and why are you, --- you meaning all religious people, --- not granting it?Regards
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jarSo to you, that one bit of success for women's rights makes the misogyny of Christianity and Islam ignorable eh. Ok.Here. Have 51 reasons why I ignore your one bit of good news.51 pretty shocking facts that make things harder for every woman you have ever met. - UpworthyRegards
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PhatHow did you know I was a pale face?I've been hacked. Just kidding.Your, --- "This is a good question. It has been my experience that equality would, by definition, include unbelievers with believers. The Bible shows no equality between these two groups so, by inference, why would God?"Those religions would see God as having created us all equal and if two religions who believe in a creator God cannot let that fact override their hate for each other then sure, they will think the others as inferior.Even Gnostic Christians think that way in a small part and chalk it up to individual progress and cultural stagnation. We pity those people.
We cannot and do not hate them. We just see them as unfortunate for becoming idol worshipers instead of seekers after God the way Jesus said we should be.Here is a bit of Gnostic literature on equality and the righteousness that we tie it to.Gnostic Scriptures and Fragments: Epiphanes - On RighteousnessOn Righteousness
The righteousness of God is a kind of sharing along with equality.--------------------You said you would have questions on Gnostic Christianity later.
I am always eager to speak of my religion which I see as a cut above the other Abrahamic cults. Jewry not being as immoral and being close to Gnostic Christian thinking.A good first look would be as follows.Gnostic Christians are perpetual seekers after God. God here I define God as the best laws and rules to live life with.We believe that those laws and rules, as Jesus said, are found in our minds/hearts.I use the following to try to illustrate this notion. A bit of history and then a mindset and method to do what I promote.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&l...The thinking shown below is the Gnostic Christian’s goal as taught by Jesus but know that any belief can be internalized to activate your higher mind.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=playe...This method and mind set is how you become I am and brethren to Jesus, in the esoteric sense.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8YWhen you can name your God, I am, and mean yourself, you will begin to know the only God you will ever find. Becoming a God is to become more fully human and a brethren to Jesus.-----------------Your, --- "If God were to have true equality, there would be no such thing as hell, judgement, or even salvation---unless salvation was somehow earned much like a college degree...through diligent study and application."Correct.But, to believe in hell, judgement and salvation, one would have to believe that man can earn an infinite punishment for a finite sin, and if he does not recognize the immorality of that, then his thinking has already been corrupted by his religion. Satan already owns that soul as it can no longer think morally or is willing to follow an immoral God.I often ask Christians just what evil sin they have done that would earn infinite torture in hell and no one ever comes up with anything that is not really mundane.But I hope you recognize that the whole I condemn you but now move over so I can die for you is too stupid to seriously contemplate as even remotely plausible.The only salvation a Gnostic Christian seeks is to be saved from such idiotic thinking.Regards
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PhatFor a better view of how I see God.Let me explain using Christian and Jewish myths.This Gnostic Christian’s apology for calling myself God.Adam and Eve became as Gods when they gained a moral sense and no longer had their mind cut off from intelligent thought. As our primordial ancestors, we inherit that same trait even though Christianity wrongly thinks that to be evil and a fall. Retaining dominion over the earth, humans never revoked this inherited trait of a moral sense, --- and the right for man to judge himself. Jesus highlights this when he took the seat of judgement at God’s right hand.When I use terms like I am God, or you are God, I am not speaking of the traditional miracle working God of scriptures and myths. He does not exist as far as we can know as he has never made an appearance to prove his reality.What I am trying to convey to you by saying that you are a God in your own right is to be master of yourself and you need not be a sheep. You can, as Jesus says, pick up your burdens and responsibilities for your sins and follow his mind set. Be a shepherd. Lead by example.What I am trying to convey is that the only God you can ever know is the good you find within yourself. It's your ideal of God and of the Jesus or Christ mind. That is quite different from me or someone thinking they are the traditional creator God, or thinking that they are more than anyone else. Both Jesus and the Christ in these myths are for equality. Not the misogyny that we presently enjoy. That is another topic though. We are to be co-equal with Jesus.Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.Jesus would explain this concept as one just seeing that they have joined God’s Divine Council by embracing his own Christ mind. Or better said, as this is the more eastern Jesus, we activate our pineal gland and open our third eye.Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.Divine Council - WikipediaRegards
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PhatYour, --- Thus...before we get the ball rolling on your new topic, I would like to understand whether you actually believe in a Creator of all seen and unseen or whether you believe humans invented and perpetuate the concept."See the post above for some of the explanation.I like the way this gent explains some of it as well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ1PDxeUynAAll God's are man made and myths to us Gnostic Christians.That is why we are perpetual seekers.Our tradition and my own apotheosis, --- no proof, do not ask for any, --- showed that there is an unseen world but certainly not the one our myths or the other Christian myths out here try to sell.All who invent Gods seem to let their imaginations go to too far of an extreme. It seems to have become a pissing contest based on lies. My God has a bigger dick than yours is about the only area where the Gods do not compete.If you can believe in a cosmic consciousness, science may be close to finding what I did and what I call apotheosis, without the divinity.
That word is poorly defined.VimeUhOhRegards
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Modern Gnostic Christians are not as you describe.Your, --- "But the Gnostics were far more concrned with some concept of a spiritual world instead of the material world."Jesus said, "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.
If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.
But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."We think that a spark of God is within all of us. Access to the spiritual world, which most get though the opening of our third eye, must thus come from the physical world that we see as the best of all possible worlds.The kingdom of God, the here and now as Jesus taught, cannot be better than it is given all the conditions at hand.The old Christian claims that we hate the physical world has always been B.S. written by those who won the God Wars and killed free thought.Best to ask a Gnostic Christian for his modern view and take all you hear elsewhere with a grain of salt. Recognizing that there are as many Gnostic Christian sects as ther are Christian ones.Regards
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NoNukesI hate all unjustified hate.That is why I hate the homophobia and misogyny institutionalized within Christianity and Islam.Regards
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jarGod have a right to command to those who believe in them and idol worship them.And Christianity and Islam are homophobic and misogynous as they have institutionalized both of those issues within their text.If all you have is hair splitting and trying to separate Christians from Christianity and Muslims from Islam then ------.Regards
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jarYour world is small compared to the real one.Iain McGilchrist: The divided brain | TED TalkThe 'God Helmet' can give you near-death and out-of-body experiences - Big ThinkVimeUhOhRegards
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ringo"That sound like a rationalization for "justifying" hate."I agree.Are you saying that hate has no justified place in our thinking?Or is it justified in some cases and what justifies it better than what I put?Regards
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jarI am not even aware of your little cult and my remarks are towards the mainstream.Your little idol worshiping cult might be as you describe. If so, good for you.How old is your cult and for how long have you allowed practicing gays to preach?Does whatever bible you use have this Gen 3;16 and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.Regards
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PhatYou are ignoring the Gnostic Christian definition of God.God is you and your higher mind. Not some guy in the sky.Man has always been the only God here.Who else but humans have ever shown the will of God?Certainly not some absentee sky God.Gnostic Christians, like Jews, are basically quite close to being atheists while recognizing that we have a higher potential in our higher minds.That is why Jewish Rabbis have always been able to overrule the God of their written tradition. They recognize that man is the highest form of life possible on earth or in the sky.Regards
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Cat SciThere are Gnostic thinkers for every belief system.I happen to live in a Christian country and thus Christianity is the tradition that I am duty bound to help if I can.I do so by showing the parts of their theology that are immoral.I was also born into a R C family and owe my first responsibility to correct foolish thinking to them.I fell quite strongly about this as I owe the church for helping me out quite a bit when younger.Regards
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Cat SciI do not call myself a Christian. I call myself a Gnostic Christian and yes, all Gnostics of all religions are arrogant as that is a part of us doing our duty in bringing the majority to our way of thinking.Goats are always the black sheep, so to speak and must arrogantly stand out from the immoral sheeple.Our duty is to stir the pot so that immoral policies can fall out of it.If we were not arrogant, we would be less prone to call the Christian prick of a God a prick of a God and a vile demiurge.Regards
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jarA better Christian church than most now that it is modernizing.A question on your House of Bishops. How many men and how many women in it?----------Nice that you are not literalist readers of all scriptures, but you still must read some literally if you are to maintain a belief in Jesus.Which begs the question on Jesus as your savior and scapegoat and the morality of it.Care to debate that here or in a new O.P.I will show my short apology here but can move if you wish to engage. I get few takers so this apology might be a good one but am always hopeful that someone will take me on.Human sacrifice is evil and your God demanding one and accepting one is evil.You trying to profit from that evil is evil. Do just a bit of thinking and you will agree.Imagine you have two children. One of your children does something wrong — say it curses, or throws a temper tantrum, or something like that. In fact, say it does this on a regular basis, and you continually forgive your child, but it never seems to change.Now suppose one day you’ve had enough, you need to do something different. You still wish to forgive your child, but nothing has worked. Do you go to your second child, your good child, and punish it to atone for the sins of the first?In fact, if you ever saw a parent on the street punish one of their children for the actions of their other child, how would you react? Would you support their decision, or would you be offended? Because God punished Jesus -- his good child -- for the sins of his other children.Interestingly, some historical royal families would beat their slaves when their own children did wrong — you should not, after all, ever beat a prince. The question is: what kind of lesson does that teach the child who actually did the harm? Does it teach them to be a better person, to stop doing harm, or does it teach them both that they won't themselves be punished, and also that punishing other people is normal? I know that's not a lesson I would want to teach my children, and I suspect it's not a lesson most Christians would want to teach theirs. So why does God?For me, that’s at least one significant reason I find Jesus’ atonement of our sin to be morally repugnant — of course, that’s assuming Jesus ever existed; that original sin actually exists; that God actually exists; etc.Having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.Do you agree?
If not, please show how it is morally and legally good to punish the innocent instead of the guilty, bearing in mind that all legal systems think that punishing the guilty is what is justice.Regards
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