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Author Topic:   There is no evolution or creationism - this is the new Matrix/DNA world view
Percy
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Message 46 of 149 (762338)
07-11-2015 7:53 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by TheMatrix/DNA
07-10-2015 2:34 PM


Re: To Percy
TheMatrix/DNA writes:

quote:
It was you who began with light - it was mentioned right up front in your first point.

No, Percy, I don't mentioned it in my first post,...

I wasn't replying to your first post, I was replying to your Message 7. I asked, "What's the algorithm?" In your reply in Message 7 you at no point describe an algorithm, but instead write:

TheMatrix/DNA in Message 7 writes:

1) This is a common pattern identified at all natural systems, from light waves to atoms to astronomicals to cells, etc.
2) The first time this formula appeared was in shape of a natural single wave of light. Each one of the seven frequencies/vibration states of a light wave is one of the seven function...

But it turns out your seven states is just one way of dividing up the electromagnetic spectrum. You go on to say:

Maybe it is my arbitrary human construct, that's why I named my results as a theory (not a scientific theory...

Yes, obviously not a scientific theory.

I see ICANT has joined the discussion. I think he's the most suitable person for evaluating your "theory."

--Percy


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ringo
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Message 47 of 149 (762362)
07-11-2015 12:25 PM
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07-10-2015 4:23 PM


Re: To Cat Sci
TheMatrix/DNA writes:

I am asking you which points in this theory is not tangible with reality....


Which part of your "theory" is tangible enough to land a probe on an asteroid?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 48 of 149 (762379)
07-11-2015 3:21 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by TheMatrix/DNA
07-11-2015 5:54 AM


Re: To Dr Adequate
Well, you seem to be blaming me for your failure to communicate. And since I'm guessing no-one else in the world can understand you, that'll be their fault too.

Or, you know, maybe it's yours. After all, you're the guy who's writing gibberish.

For easing yours way I am trying to use yours terminology ...

I don't see how that's meant to help either of us. If you were talking to a golfer, would you try to convey your ideas by talking of nine irons and sand traps? If you don't want to use scientific terminology, I advise you to stop. That way you will not have the fatigue of writing, nor I of reading, your seemingly random assortments of scientific jargon.


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TheMatrix/DNA
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Message 49 of 149 (762387)
07-11-2015 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by ICANT
07-11-2015 12:25 AM


Re: To Percy
ICANT wrote:

quote:
Your theory is then that there was a:

Atom system,
Stellar system,
Galactic system,
Cell system and,
Self-conscious system which is the present system.
All these natural systems evolved by small evolutionary steps.


Hi ICANT, thanks by coming and putting some order in this discussion. It seems that people here are interested in debating language, grammatical, while I am interested first in focusing real proved known natural facts and events,then, debating ours different interpretations about that fact. You are bringing on facts and that's good for me, but I think you began in wrong way, pointing out cosmological issues, when I am interested in facts existents here and now, because with these facts we can produce something practical, like technologies, medicine, etc.

Yours list is in the order that the final results from Matrix/DNA are suggesting. But there is two things wrong in it:

1) All these systems are a unique system. In a human's body existence we see a unique body being transformed into new shapes, like the initial morula into blastula, the blastula into a fetus, till the body becoming a cadaver. The morula mimics the primordial nebulae of atoms, the blastula mimics the agglomerate of galaxies, the etus mimics fish or reptiles, and so on. The Matrix/DNA is suggesting that we must resuscitates the Haeckel's recapitulation theory where "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny", despite the lamme that somebody put in it. This suggestion comes from another conclusion of the theory that in this Universe is occurring a process of genetic reproduction of the thing that generated it. If you are a Christian believer you would appreciate this idea because Jesus always look to the soil and said "the son" and then look to the sky and said "the father". Son and father are pure genetics.

Atoms and galaxies are our ancestral shapes, in the sense that blastula and fetus were our primordial shapes. It means that there is a universal system that began to compose after the Big Bang and is evolving under the rules of vital cycles, like does it our own body.

2) Matrix/DNA results are suggesting that before atoms systems there was a long period of evolution from particles which already were systems in itself and this development fits with the Nobel Prize Hideki Yukawa theory. The meaning of the Big Bang event is different from the meaning that the modern Standard Model gave to it. While the academic theory suggests that the event could happens by chance and randomness, Matrix/DNA suggests that its meaning is similar to the meaning of a membrane of a spermatozoon breaking up in the center of an ovule. So, Official Science see that event from the Physics and Math perspective while Matrix/DNA see it from the Biology perspective. The difference is that while in biological state the genome are closed inside an envelope, in the universal system origins the genome came fragmented in living bits-information and spreaded in spacetime.

But as I said, this is cosmological discussion, far away off the issue that is my interest just now, which is Nature her and now. Thanks by the contribution, and sorry by the poor grammatics... Cheers.


There was no origins of life and universe, astronomical systems are half-alive, light waves contains the code for life and DNA is not a code: Matrix/DNA Theory

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Capt Stormfield
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Message 50 of 149 (762393)
07-11-2015 5:50 PM
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07-11-2015 12:25 PM


Re: To Cat Sci
Which part of your "theory" is tangible enough to land a probe on an asteroid?

Catch an ear on hemorrhoid more likely...


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Capt Stormfield
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Message 51 of 149 (762394)
07-11-2015 6:00 PM
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07-11-2015 5:05 PM


Re: To Percy
...people here are interested in debating language...

Yeah, nasty habit that. Trying to connect your words with reality.

The morula mimics the primordial nebulae of atoms, the blastula mimics the agglomerate of galaxies...

Yes, that is a profound world view alright. Things kind of look like other things, so therefore...oh wow...have you ever looked at your hand? I mean really, reeeeeeeally looked at your hand?

I sincerely hope you're an incredibly stoned Poe, 'cause if you're not...


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Bliyaal
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Message 52 of 149 (762397)
07-11-2015 6:41 PM
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07-11-2015 4:05 AM


Re: To Bliyaal
I did not science in the way that human species at 21 century understand it, which is very different from the way that Orionnesis from Orion, Nebula, understand Science and apply different methods. You need understand that each kind of intelligence would have different kind of science, because different brains, different sensors and different methods. For instance, ants can not understand any kind of natural phenomena if not from the optics that contains knowledge of magnetic fields, because ants have antenna. If they develops a science, the rules of science does not change, but at the beginning their scientific knowledge and methods would stands far away off the beam from the human scientific viewpoint.

Are you saying that you're on another level of intelligence?


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TheMatrix/DNA
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Message 53 of 149 (762421)
07-12-2015 2:29 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by ICANT
07-11-2015 12:25 AM


Re: To Percy
quote:
TheMatrix/DNA writes:
my method of investigation/calculations can't go beyond the natural limits of universe's spacetime, so I don't know what's or who is the ex-machine creator

ICANT wrote:
So are you saying you don’t have a clue to what existed prior to the Big Bang?
But you admit there had to be something there. I call that something existence.

This sounds like what these guys have been telling me for years just using different words. And since they can not tell me how existence began to exist from non existence they have not convinced me.


Matrix/DNA is very different. It suggests a picture of what was existing before the Big Bang: natural existence. Matrix/DNA found an evolutionary link between cosmological and biological evolutions. With this link plus the knowledge of the mechanism that produced a cell system as a biological copy of an astronomical system, we are able to go back calculating the past, till the first moments of this universal material existence. With this Universal History at hands, we see that it points out a design about what was existing before the universe's first moments.

The Universal History written by Matrix/DNA is a projection to astronomical dimensions of the micro history of a human body. The Universe as this agglomerate of galaxies is merely the placenta or embryonary sac, and it will be discarded like the placenta is discarded at the day of the Big Birth. That's the cause I have named this history as " From the Big Bang to the Big Birth". I know that nobody today will appreciate this world view, because everybody already was indoctrinated by different world views, their brains are hard-wired in a way that we can not change it in a lifetime. There are two big world view today: one I named "positive religion", they are creationist deists; the other is the "negative religion", they are materialist and atheists. I think that Matrix/DNA fits just in the middle and its name could be "naturalist religion". I am a naturalist philosopher and an agnostic.

As I said, Matrix/DNA have a suggestion about what was the existence before the universe's origins. This suggestion is a picture extracted from the Universal History. If we know the shape of a baby giraffe and knows the shape/functioning of the baby giraffe, but never saw a giraffe before, we can draw a theoretical design about the thing that produced the baby. Now we have at hands not a baby, but an embryo of a system that is self-conscious. As evolutionary extension from the brains' anatomy plus the Matrix/DNA formula for all shapes of that universal system, we are beginning to get a picture of this " consciousness system".

We know that a human body during the period of embryogenesis change its shape from blastula, fetus, etc. But the embryonary body never comes to external existence in those prior shapes: it is born in the shape of human species. This is the last evolutionary shape coming from embryogenesis. By another hand, the last universal evolutionary shape we know here and now ( in this region of the universe and at this time of the universe) of that universal system is the shape of consciousness. So... the conclusion is obvious: the thing that was existing before the Big Bang also has the property of consciousness. We don't know if the shape of that mysterious thing is pure consciousness because we are not sue that consciousness will be the last more complex system in this universe. Maybe it is something more complex, yet. But, we can be sure that the prior existence is at least, self-conscious.

By another hand, matrix/DNA is suggesting that in this universe is occurring a natural process of genetic reproduction. It means that the existence before the Big Bang was a natural system. Not a magician, not a metaphysics entity. Because a magician would not apply genetic process, for reproducing itself

Human beings always forget that we have a very limited brain with poor and few sensors. Ours technological scientific instruments that reaches the micro and macro cosmos are merely poor extensions of these poor and few sensors. So, people that believe that he/she knows the fnal thru have lost the control of their minds. Recently we are developing instruments that are taking photos of distant galaxies with different levels of electromagnetic radiation and these photos are showing astonishing realities like clouds of gases in surprising shapes. It is like a microbe situated at a cell of a liver seeing the stomach in shape of cloud of gases. Matrix/DNA, in first ime of human culture, is suggesting that the structure of galaxies that we have seen with visible light is covered by a layer of half-biological structures. In another words, we does not know about galaxies, yet.

You can believe that you know that there is an existence before and beyond the observable universe, and that yours knowledge comes from a God that talked it to ancient human beings. I can't believe in it because every symbol and narration of every big religion were located by Matrix/DNA as real symbols, since that the Universal History and the Matrix formula had suggested facts and events that are in accordance with those symbols. If you look right to Matrix formula picture posted here, you will notice that it is the design of the paradise and containing Adam, Eve, the tree, the serpent, the apple, and included those events as the fall and the arising of life at Earth. If you look the formula you will see that it is also the same design of the I Ching symbol. It happens that the formula above represents the state of the world moments before life's origins, when galaxies reached the perfect machine closed system shape. Then, a naturalist method applied at the Amazon jungle wild nature asking the meaning of ours existence got a result that is the same source of inspiration of all big religions. But I know that no God talked to my brain in the jungle. I know that the Matrix/DNA formula was result of hard investigative work by human rationalism. And I know that the Matrix formula is encrypted into our DNA, which are situated at the center of our neurons and which built our brains. Then, my conclusion is that no God talked to those ancient people, they were merely getting the expression of what is inside their neurons.

But... if a God is the creator of neurons, if God is the answer to the ex-machine picture suggested by matrix/DNA, those neurons for sure must talking His words. The conclusion is that a supreme God dos not need going to each planet of billions that have intelligent life talking to each one: he has as His speakers the neurons that registered the whole universal history and can talk to our mind naturally every time that someone gets the expression of those neurons. In another words, if you comes from a positive religion, you earned, so I will pass the mustard and will pay the next beer. Cheers...


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TheMatrix/DNA
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Message 54 of 149 (762424)
07-12-2015 3:35 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by ringo
07-11-2015 12:25 PM


Re: To Ringo
quote:
TheMatrix/DNA writes:
I am asking you which points in this theory is not tangible with reality....

Ringo wrote:
Which part of your "theory" is tangible enough to land a probe on an asteroid?


Ringo, I have sent a suggestion to NASA with mechanisms for to build a robot-machine that could reproduce itself in Mars, populating Mars with productive robots. The Matrix/DNA formula is about the most perfect machine that can recycling itself. It is the formula in its evolutionary state at astronomical dimensions, when the formula organizes matter into building blocks of galaxies, which are perfect working systems. Look to the formula and see how the flow that arrives to F7 contains the entropic mass of a cadaver and how, in F1, the dust is mixed with energy in state of ascendency and rebuilds the entire system. This is self-recycling and this is the explanation why galaxies get a lifelong of billions years.

When the Matrix/DNA ( or our ancestral) arrived to the shape of building blocks of galaxies, it made the worst mistake, the worst sin, becoming a closed system, closing the doors to its own evolution. The Universe answered with the Clausius Law, the second law of thermodynamics, the entropy that leads a system to death. Then was the Fall and the system is lifting up at planets surfaces as opened systems, aka, biological systems. It is very important that we know the difference between closed and opened system.

But, in the sky, a natural system needs to die for reborning again. At Earth, the offspring of that astronomical system, called living beings, dies and is not able to self-recycling because they are opened systems, then, F7 opens for to relate with the planet, to where goes the cadaver's fragments.

For to build a mars-robot that reproduces itself it needs to be designed upon the Matrix formula. This is the easy part. But we can not build a machine that needs to die, to be fragmented, tor to rebuild itself. The solution is in nature again. Let's see it:

The first cell system produced in this planet was a plant cell. It was the reproduction of the sky system and the process was genetic transmission ( in my website I am explaining it). The mutations between the astronomical and the biological system were due new terrestrial environment and materials. Astronomical systems are built only with the solid and gaseous states of matter, and at Earth there was the liquid state, water. So, the mutations are perfectly comprehensible. The cell system has all seven systemic functions, that is why it is linked with the Sun and can do photosynthesis. Then, the plant cell almost kept the original sin, being an almost closed system. It was a dead end for evolution.

Then, emerged the animal cell. Each does not receipt all seven functions, it is missing F7, just which performs the function of chloroplasts. No photosynthesis, the animal cel was condemned to search its own energy, but it didn't keep the original sin because was an opened system. The doors to evolution were opened throughout the animal reign.

Then we can go back now to the robots. A perfect machine must be designed having as map the Matrix/DNA formula, but if we want it reproduces itself and alone in another astronomical body we need to cut off the functions F6 and F7, like the animal cell.

That's the big secret of life: it cut off the right side of the Matrix formula, which is the entropic side, which leads the system to death. Life choose only molecules that spins left, that contains only the left side of the formula, this is the phenomenon of chirality. If a molecule contains in itself the process that leads to death, the first molecules never would be able to build a protein.

But the formula will make something better. A unique initial robot will not only reproduce itself, but it will derives its shape into 5 other different shapes, then, these five different shapes will be connected for building a complete working productive system. It means that the machines will extract the materials from the soil, will manufacturing the materials and will send to Earth the final product, prompt for to be consumed. Humanity will have complete automatized production system spreaded by astronomical bodies in the space.

The science and technology from Matrix/DNA had no time for landing a probe in Mars due it is a science that is born now. But it will bring a super-science and super-technology because it reveals everything about systems, and the systemic knowledge is the 50% that will complement the actual 50% of scientific knowledge based solely on the reductionist science.

I mentioned only the case of probes because you ask it. But with this formula I am seeing thousands of improvements that we can do upon the modern technology. And you will see if you learn how to read the formula, the great quantity of informations that it contains. Because this formula and the world view that emerges from it reveals lots of new natural mechanisms and processes which will be mimicked technologically by human beings. Cheers...


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anglagard
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Message 55 of 149 (762425)
07-12-2015 4:13 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by TheMatrix/DNA
07-12-2015 2:29 AM


Re: To Percy
After trying to discern what on earth you are going on about (and indeed is most headache inducing), my best guess is you believe this matrix/DNA,which appears to contain a pattern for all future forms and even consciousness itself, is somehow an incipient property of matter. Did you know this position is both centuries old and universally dismissed?

From what I can best tell, you are promoting the idea of Monadism.

Please feel free to elaborate on why your theory is somehow different.

Edited by anglagard, : replace wrong use of word in with on.


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon

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TheMatrix/DNA
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Message 56 of 149 (762426)
07-12-2015 4:25 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by ICANT
07-11-2015 12:25 AM


Re: To Percy
quote:
TheMatrix/DNA writes:
3) The formula is the algorithmic shape of the flow of energy/information that runs inside the systemic circuity connecting the parts of the system. Nature self-assembles systems applying the force of life's cycles upon an initial body containing mass, light and the energy carried by light. This force leads the body to change its shapes.

ICANT wrote:
If I understand what you are saying, it is that natural laws determined what we see today from what existed at the Big Bang. Is that correct?


Yes, almost correct, accordingly to what I have interpreted from the Matrix/DNA formulas and models. But, ICANT, this is obvious, if you considers that human beings are made by a process that is the image and functionality/similarity of the process that the mysterious creator applied for making the Universe. Let~s explain it by an analogy:

The first minute that yours own body came to existence was when the membrane of a spermatozoon broken up at the center of an ovule. it was a micro big bang. Just in that moment all informations for building yours body were there at that micro big bang. Initially yours body take the shape of the primordial nebulae of atoms, you was a morula. Following this moment yours body became a blastula, which seems the universe populated by galaxies. Then came the shapes of fish, reptile, mammals, and all informations for these shapes were there at yours 'big bang". The creator does not need intervene in each phase of the Universe if He wants to build a human being, it is enough inserting all informations at the moment of the Big Bang.

The materialist world view is making an infantile mistake when believing that evolution is blind and each new complexity added to prior shapes were created by chance events that would happens by probability. New complexity means new information and the Universe is not a magician for creating information that never existed before from nothing. The Universe knows only a method for producing new shapes of natural system and this method is that by which the Universe itself was created. There are lots of new informations that derives by fuzzy logics due the universal systemic functions deriving themselves in new shapes for performing its function in a new environment. But informations produced by fuzzy logics are not informations that never existed before, they are derived from the mixing of old informations. And these informations by fuzzy logics are detrimental since that they diminishes the perfection of the system they came from.

When I have a new question I ask it first to Nature. Because I read somewhere that: " If you want to know how I think, observes my job, my immediate link with you, which is Nature."

Of course, if you see the pictures of Van Gogh you will have a portrait of the author mind.

So, everytime that you have good intention in yours heart and is humble enough for paying attention to signals, you ask a question to Nature you will see a signal where the answer exists. Nature points out a scene that you can see here and now when answering a cosmological question, because the process and shapes it applies here are the same applied at all space time of this Universe. Human beings have been arrogant and want something spectacular, that why they build such complex mathematical equations that points out ghost black holes in the sky... and Nature does not do that since that here and now have anything similar to black holes.

Sometimes Nature produces here novelty over some existent systems not due new information were inserted into the Universe or that the Universe created them from nothing. You know about those delayed genes that are expressed later in our life, like the genes for moustache, etc. But again, these informations was here, like the information for moustaches was inside the ovule since the micro big bang. Cheers...


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TheMatrix/DNA
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Message 57 of 149 (762429)
07-12-2015 5:04 AM
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07-11-2015 12:25 AM


Re: To Percy
quote:
TheMatrix/DNA writes:
Same happens with the history of the Universe. Before the beginning there was something, which we don't know, but let's call it, a system.

ICANT wrote:
So how long would that system of something exist in the past?


ICANT, you need know that it is not me that says before the beginning ( of the Universe) there was a system. I am not mixed with the theory, this conclusion is not an anthropologic projection. It is the results of reading maps and interpreting models made by pure formal logics and real proved facts. The maps are pointing out that was a system, a natural and conscious system that was not a magician.

This system must be bigger than the Universe, and its lifelong must be more than at least 20 billion years. I have no problem in accepting such unimaginable dimensions because I remember that those bacteria in my body could not believe in the size of things at my dimension and even would be inconceivable to those bacterias the sizes of astronomy. An my size is like a bacteria in relation to the Universe.

if this ex-machine system is eternal or infinity no human brain could know it. Because when we leave our observable universe and goes further beyond it we knows that there is a place where all know natural law becomes negative laws. it is not conceivable for human beings that something arouse from Nothing and it is not conceivable that something never was born from something, in another words, that something is infinity. So, there is no third alternative to human brains. The supreme mistery is unsolvable by our brain in this evolutionary shape and if someone says that he/she knows the third alternative, it should be a lie.

I don't need this solution to this ultimate question because what I know from this world is enough for explain my existence here and what is my mission here. I am a conscious gene building the embryo of a conscious being that will born for the world beyond this observable universe. And like the genes of my parents lifted up for to be the neurons in my head, I will be in the head of that being.

I am this gene, and like me are 8 billions human beings and maybe billions of billions others that are conscious spreaded in the Universe. Then my family is not my mother and brothers alone, but it is the sacred universal family and I am here for helping all conscious genes like me to accomplish their mission, because each gene is one information without which my future body will born handicapped. If the system beyond the Universe is God or a conscious natural system it is just this mission that He would like to see me performing here, That's enough for while, I don't need ultimate answers... And this meaning for my life that emerges from Matrix/DNA world view is the cause that I love it...


There was no origins of life and universe, astronomical systems are half-alive, light waves contains the code for life and DNA is not a code: Matrix/DNA Theory

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Message 58 of 149 (762449)
07-12-2015 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by TheMatrix/DNA
07-10-2015 4:23 PM


Re: To Cat Sci
Hey Louise,

I didn't say that your theory was bullshit, I said that the excuse that it was too long to explain was bullshit.

Anyways, you've gone off on a bit of a ramble and posted over 2000 words in your latest replies to me. It's going to take me a little while to catch up, and that's not going to happen right now.

I do, though, have an outstanding questions that I don't feel you've answered, and explaining it will help me understand what you mean:

When you say that you have not found one single law that is not obeyed by the whole natural Universal History described by the theory, what do you mean by "a law being obeyed by the history"?


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ringo
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Message 59 of 149 (762464)
07-12-2015 2:18 PM
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Re: To Ringo
TheMatrix/DNA writes:

Ringo, I have sent a suggestion to NASA with mechanisms for to build a robot-machine that could reproduce itself in Mars, populating Mars with productive robots.


Specifically, how would your formula handle that problem? How would it differ from the mundane Newtonian mechanics with relativistic overtones?

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Message 60 of 149 (762480)
07-12-2015 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by New Cat's Eye
07-12-2015 12:23 PM


Re: To Cat Sci
Hey Louise,
I didn't say that your theory was bullshit, I said that the excuse that it was too long to explain was bullshit.

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Anyways, you've gone off on a bit of a ramble and posted over 2000 words in your latest replies to me. It's going to take me a little while to catch up, and that's not going to happen right now.

I do, though, have an outstanding questions that I don't feel you've answered, and explaining it will help me understand what you mean:

When you say that you have not found one single law that is not obeyed by the whole natural Universal History described by the theory, what do you mean by "a law being obeyed by the history"?


Cat Sci... you will never find an organism that does not obeys the rules of its DNA.
And in the evolutionary tree, from archaea, fungis or metazoan to chimpanzees you never find a connection between two organism that is not ruled by primary instinct, which maybe all them comes from their genetics also.

The Matrix/DNA formula is the DNA projected at universal level, it is inside all natural systems, from light waves to atoms to galaxies. All those systems and the relationships among those systems obeys the rules of the Matrix formula. And analysing the formula I have not found anything that does not fit into the known laws of Nature. We can see in the formula laws, mechanisms, processes that are not known yet by academic sciences, but, you know, it does not means that such laws does not exist.

The Universal History is the flow of causes and effects retroactively that advances ahead. By itself this flow is not conscious about restraining orders, so it does not obeys laws. That's the explanation for why the materialists believe that exists events by chance, randomness. It happens that has a hierarchy of systems and every effect produced by a system that does not fit the forces and equilibrium of its superior system is anulated by the superior system. To this, the darwinists calls natural selection. Our biosphere was produced and is inside a bigger and half-biological astronomical system. The academic sciences does not have the right theoretical model of this system. There are hidden variables which are more complex than those predicted by Newtonian mechanics and were not pointed out by Einstein's relativistic theory. These hidden variables constitutes the principles of biological organization of matter, which are here and now produced by something or someone, and the answer is the astronomical model elaborated by Matrix/DNA Theory.

It is not the flow of Universal History that obeys natural laws, it is the flow that reveals rules that were eternally practiced by the flow. But, if the flow was pre-designed genetically or intelligently before its beginnings at the Big Bang, History produces laws that was produced by the designer.

The very fact that I introduced the excuse that explanations are too long, you can see just here in my answer. I could write merely that "same way that all living beings obeys the rules of DNA, all natural systems of this universe obeys the rules of the Matrix/DNA". But if I do that I will do what atheists and deists are doing. Every question have the same answer: "This was made off by God" or "this was made off by randomness". It is metaphysics and circular reasoning.

So, when The theory says that this was made by this and in this way, it is necessary to base the assertion on real proved facts and logical evidences. But my issues are about systems, which are established by a hierarchy of systems where each detail of each phenomena is produced by a sub-system and the entire phenomena is produced by the set of that hierarchy. So, when facing each new phenomena my Matrix/DNA's world view trained brain enters into a chain of zig-zags going from Alfa to Omega at light speed when I see all natural systems at all universal history for locating the origins and evolution of such phenomena. My brain do it fast but if I need write it for other persons that does know the systemic language and world view, it takes long texts...

I know lots more evidences and real facts that reinforces my answer above but I will not write them here, it would be prejudice for me and for you. For instance, explaining that the apparently randomness of a given event is contained into hidden rules is necessary that one knows the law of eggs out and eggs in. This law is extracted from the event when reptiles becomes mammals, which is the same event that makes seed of stars becoming planets and then, you discover that reptiles became mammals because the instructions for doing that were written in the stars billion years ago. I did not mentioned it because I can't write a heavy book here.
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There was no origins of life and universe, astronomical systems are half-alive, light waves contains the code for life and DNA is not a code: Matrix/DNA Theory

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