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Author Topic:   There is no evolution or creationism - this is the new Matrix/DNA world view
TheMatrix/DNA
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Message 88 of 149 (762960)
07-18-2015 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by New Cat's Eye
07-17-2015 10:36 AM


Re: To Cat Sci
quote:
That conclusion does not logically follow. I think it is the Fallacy of Composition, or something similiar. You are assuming that since one natural system behaves one way then all other natural systems must also behave that way.

3) Conclusion: Nothing.


What does not follow is yours conclusion: "nothing".

First of all, we are not talking about behavior. I said in the last post that each copy of a natural system has a minimum variation that specializes it in its specific function. Like the cells of ours body, they are all copies of an initial cell, an original template, but everyone makes something different. Differences of behavior is very difficult to identificate, it was not used in my conclusion;

Second: the composition refers to origins of natural systems, how did they come to be. If you does not see that every natural system must be produced by a prior existent system you will believe in "origins" and will need a theoretical model for each origin of each system. Like one that need a magical entity for explaining the origin of each animal species.

Refers to their composition: we can see organelles at cells, organs at organisms, nitrogenous base at nucleotides, bodies of the building block of galaxies, all them are very different in substance, shape, etc. but the fundamental essence behind them are the same: universal systemic functions. In the formula, Function 1, will model its tool for acting in a new environment, with new materials and it will be modelled for to perform its function that is "generation of a new body" using raw ingredients and energy under increasing state ( not entropic state). So, F1 do it when modeling the cells nucleus for replicating the DNA, choosing among the raw ingredients the right one for making a new body, the right side of the stream; when modeling the human female reproductive apparatus, when modelling the nucleus of astronomical systems for producing new stars seeds, and so on. You are not trained to understanding what is a complete perfect natural system, as described in Matrix/DNA formula, that's why you can not grasp the meaning of universal systemic functions;

Refers to functionality and identity of systems. If you take a human body and separates each shape that it gets in a lifespan, them try to recompose the life'a cycle backwards, you will notice, for instance, that for existing an adult body is necessary that it absorbs a teeneger body. The teeneger body is inside the adult body which repeats all its functions, same functionality, and same identity. Now take the first cell system and reduces it to its creator - this galaxy called Milk Way - and take the galaxy and reduces it to its creator - a nebula of lighters atoms. Same thing, the functionality and identity are the same in all of them, and if you does not see it, yours models of astronomical and atoms systems are wrong or not completed. In Matrix/DNA models you see all these things very clear.

Yours conclusion is "nothing". Arbitraraly you separate biological systems composed of cells to human beings from the other systems that were composing the state of the world that created these biological systems. You need something from outside the Nature, something metaphysical, like little gods or the "absolute magical nothing that produced everything". I think it is the Fallacy of Composition, a delusion produced by the non ability to see and touch the micro and macro levels of Nature, which produces a misunderstanding of these levels. This delusion is feed by the milenar human culture that was born in ancient times producing the mysticism of magical gods and spirits, and, at another side, was born at the Illuminism and feed by Galileo, Newton, etc., that saw no need for explaining the life's properties at Earth because they had the answer: nothing. They were produced by chance explained by statistics and probability calculus - which are merely human-mind construction, not natural property.

Com'on, Cat Sci, it is time to wake up: nobody else created these biological systems here than our galaxy and its atoms, so, the forces, the elements, and the mechanisms for creating it must be existing here before life's origins - which did not happened because galaxies and atoms are not died systems, they were somehow alive. If you does not see these forces, elements and mechanisms in yours astronomical and atomic models, you must search them there because they must be there. As I did.

Galaxies are to much distant one from other for some comet or meteorite transporting life from other galaxy to the Milk Way. It is not logical to believe that the forces and elements for producing life were inserted into Milk Way from outside. It is not logical that the Milk Way, as theoretically modelled by the academic staff could produce life here. Convergence of forces and elements by chance at one given point at spacetime only has produced destruction of existent systems, not creating from nowhere new systems. If we need the idea that life came from outside this galaxy, the unique alternative is that life was encoded someway and inserted into this Universe at the moment of the Big Bang. So, life came from inside this galaxy and not from outside, even that the source of life and galaxies is outside and existing before the Universe.

You are in need of taking a shower of crude and salvage Nature but keeping a philosopher naturalist reasoning and Nature will do a brainwash cleaning all these fake interpretations of natural phenomena and events and will pull you back to the natural state of reasoning. Then you will be able to talk about logics. Not as offense, I am telling about the modern world mindset.


There was no origins of life and universe, astronomical systems are half-alive, light waves contains the code for life and DNA is not a code: Matrix/DNA Theory

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TheMatrix/DNA
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Message 89 of 149 (762967)
07-18-2015 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by New Cat's Eye
07-17-2015 10:36 AM


Re: To Cat Sci
quote:
Cat Sci wrote:

Sure:

1) From the first cell or living being to humans, all them, are natural systems and their bodies were made by a unique common formula called DNA.
2) Atoms, stellar and galaxies are natural systems;
3) Conclusion: Nothing.

It is up to you bring on the proof for yours affirmation.
Since I have not concluded anything, there is no affirmation to prove.

I'll just sit here comfortably in limbo and wait for you to support your conclusion in a way that is not a logical fallacy. That is, assuming that you are interested in providing logical support for your ideas.


Yes, you have concluded a final answer: nothing. If one are telling that by evolution reptiles were transformed into mammals, mammals arrived to chimpanzees, but, from chimpanzees to humans the evolution was different, like you said above, you need to bring the different thing that made it. I am merely describing the logics of evolution that I see here at Earth and projecting it to the whole Universe, there is no differences at some point of evolution. This difference requires external agents coming from outside the long chain of causes and effects coming since the Big Bang. This is logics.

It is not up to me to prove that natural logics is all that exists. And as Einstein said, " one does not need to prove that his theory is the right one, it is enough showing that it makes sense". Darwin, Einstein, Mendell did not proved their theories when alive, they introduced their models and explanations about them, like I am doing. If you want, take any detail of proved and known natural phenomena and ask how it fits in Matrix/DNA theory, and we will be surprised. Or go to my website and see thousands of articles explaining natural phenomena on a new way never did before. For instance, every detail of insects, ants and bee social systems can be located inside that simple matrix formula performed in a mechanical astronomical fashion, and it leads us to a prediction about the future of humans social systems that we are seeing just now its development. This prediction already was grasped by Aldous Huxley and George Orwell because every time a philosopher makes extraordinary efforts for calculating something in the future, its brain reveals a kind of intuition derived from what is registered into the DNA of its neurons, like the ancestor astronomical systems are registered into our Matrix/DNA. It is never imagined before explanations due the right model of the world was never imagined before by human beings.

Tell me about the alien that came here making evolution different from chimpanzees to humans that I will think that could be possible also an alien making the evolution from galactic systems to cells systems different, like you said. Matrix/DNA theory have no needs of aliens.


There was no origins of life and universe, astronomical systems are half-alive, light waves contains the code for life and DNA is not a code: Matrix/DNA Theory

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TheMatrix/DNA
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Message 90 of 149 (762968)
07-18-2015 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Dr Adequate
07-17-2015 11:09 PM


Re: To Dr Adequate
quote:
1) Whales are all mammals and live in the sea.
2) Giraffes, yaks, and anteaters are mammals.
3) Conclusion: all mammals, including giraffes, yaks, and anteaters, must have in common that they all live in the sea.

Nah, see, that's not logic.


Of course, it is not logic, you have distorted my composition. While I am talking about the inner composition of natural systems, you are bringing on a composition with external elements surrounding natural systems, like the sea. My compositions is not about where natural systems lives, all of them lives in the observable Universe. My composition is about the inner features of natural systems,, its origins, its inner functionality and identity.

Following my composition and does not arriving to same conclusion yours compositions must be:

1) Whales are all mammals, all them are natural systems and their bodies were made by a unique common formula called DNA;
2) Giraffes, yaks, and anteaters are mammals.
3) Conclusion: giraffes, yaks, and anteaters are different, their bodies were not made by a unique common formula...

Nah, see, that's not logic. You will need to point out the external agent coming from outside Nature for explaining the different origins of different mammals.

Edited by TheMatrix/DNA, : No reason given.


There was no origins of life and universe, astronomical systems are half-alive, light waves contains the code for life and DNA is not a code: Matrix/DNA Theory

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TheMatrix/DNA
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Message 93 of 149 (762971)
07-18-2015 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by New Cat's Eye
07-17-2015 10:45 AM


Re: To Cat Sci
quote:
Here are the questions that, from what I've seen you post here, I think pertain to you:

2. I hear or see things that others do not hear or see.
3. I feel it is very difficult for me to express myself in words that others can understand.

5. I believe in more than one thing about reality and the world around me that nobody else seems to believe in.

6. Others don't believe me when I tell them the things I see or hear.

8. I have magical powers that nobody else has or can explain.

11. I am treated unfairly because others are jealous of my special abilities.

Try it out, see what you get.


I did it and let's see the final results:

2. I hear or see things that others do not hear or see.

Nope. The final results of my world view (The Matrix/DNA Theory), are not personal, but, merely the results of a sequence of calculus based on comparative anatomy among natural systems anatomies, producing models of evolutionary links between them, based on the mechanisms of cosmological plus biological evolution, and every model confronted with existents natural proved parameters.

Some parameters are about things that I saw in the jungle which were saw by all others natives, and they were not saw by urban humans like Cat Sci because Cat Sci did not go to the jungle.

In another hands, yours answers to this question should be: I don't hear or see things that others do not hear or see, but I believe in things that others said to hear and see which - I can not hear and see. Ones believes that ancient people saw magics and heard gods, others believe that modern people see black holes in the sky and heard big explosions like a Big Bang...

3. I feel it is very difficult for me to express myself in words that others can understand.

Nope. I can express myself and in my native language language very well, the proof is that at high school I got prizes for getting the first place in compositions concourses. I feel it is very difficult for me to express a new world view that resulted from calculations in words that others can understand, since that this world view is suggesting mechanisms and process unknown here for which there is no created new words yet.

But yours answers to this question would be: If you are a creationist, you have no difficulties for expressing yourself when talking about world views because the Bible has all answers and I know how to repeat those answers. If you are a materialist, some way, the books from materialists have all answers. In another words you never expresses yourself. I do, I created my own world view.

5. I believe in more than one thing about reality and the world around me that nobody else seems to believe in.

Nope. I am skeptical about human interpretations of the world as I explained here before that my human brain is too much little for grasping this big world and the sensors of my brain are few ones and very limited. That's why I call my world view as " theory, and under testings".

But yours answer would be: I believe in the materialistic world view and those crationists and pagans agnostics around me seems not believe in it. Or if you are a creationist...

Ok, Cat Sci, let's stop the test here, it makes no sense. and is loosing time. All humans are mentally sick due we are the sons of chaos, the chaos that Matrix/DNA Theory is suggesting happened as resulted from the entropy that attacked our ancestral shape as astronomical systems due our ancestral shape choose to be a selfish closed system. If you does not believe in it, go to the heart of Amazon jungle and you will see ours origins coming from the chaos. But since that the reason that produced that chaos is merely a theory yet ( maybe the right version is the biblical sin of Adam and Eve), it does not avoid the idea that we are mentally sick because the chaos really exists.

A good way for human beings to cure a little bit their mind is going there and knowing the real reality, as I did. That's why I am little bit less sick than the common human being are. No offense.. I am trying to help.

Edited by TheMatrix/DNA, : No reason given.


There was no origins of life and universe, astronomical systems are half-alive, light waves contains the code for life and DNA is not a code: Matrix/DNA Theory

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TheMatrix/DNA
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Message 94 of 149 (762989)
07-19-2015 4:41 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by Dr Adequate
07-18-2015 12:41 PM


Re: To Dr Adequate
quote:
1) Class X has properties P and Q.
2) Class Y has property P.
3) Therefore class Y has property Q.
This is not logic.

Wrong distortion again. My first and second premises talks about things of same class: both are natural systems. There is no classes X and Y. And my sample of formal logics is used in philosophy for building theoretical models, not for affirmation of something. That is why I said "must" and not therefore. This method is useful because due this composition, one is motivated to search the common formula at others systems. Nobody did it, then, nobody searched the formula in those systems. I did motivated by logics and found it.

By another hand, in yours theory, how the first atomic system, stellar and galactic system were assembled... please, let me know.

Self-assembling... maybe some God...


There was no origins of life and universe, astronomical systems are half-alive, light waves contains the code for life and DNA is not a code: Matrix/DNA Theory

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TheMatrix/DNA
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Message 96 of 149 (763016)
07-19-2015 2:44 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Dr Adequate
07-19-2015 11:11 AM


Re: To Dr Adequate
quote:
Class X: "the first cell or living being to human"
Class Y: "Atoms, stellar and galaxies"
Property P: being "natural systems

Yet... it is wrong. It is not only the fact of being natural systems that put them in the same class. When I said cells "to" human beings, it is encrypted the idea of an evolutionary lineage. And from my perspective, atoms to stellar to galaxies is also an evolutionary lineage, and the same lineage. I see no needs for mentioning it because to me, this is the most clearly logics in the world. There was no abiogenesis, merely was ' astronomical embryogenetic reproduction mutated into cells systems due new ingredients and environment". But, the common people educated and nurtured by this millenar human culture believes that the micro and macro space/time dimensions are separated from our humanistic "medium" space/time dimension. Since that have only one unique Nature, it does not make sense for me.

Now, read the text below if you have free time only for the sake of curiosity:

Common people are not trained for imagining they changing their position in three different points of space/time when observing natural phenomena or event. So, they don't are able to see an element or an event at micro dimension evolving to macro dimension and vice-versa. Lots of misunderstandings in human interpretations of natural phenomena are produced due the fault of this relativistic exercise. I don't know why but my mind is trained for - every time I see a new natural phenomena or event - to make quickly this operation, so my memory goes throughout the three dimensions at light speed calculating the final meaning of that phenomena, which includes origins, function at a system and development to actual shape.

So, I am advocating that mechanisms and processes applied at macro dimensions are same from micro dimensions. If it is true, for instance, the weird effects we are watching below the atomic dimension - studied by quantum theory - are not weirds, they can be explained with mechanisms saw at our dimension. And in fact they are. I will give two samples:

1) The Heisenberg uncertainty principle: Look to Matrix/DNA formula and understand that it means a flow of energy/information running inside a channel which we call " the systemic circuit". The system is produced by an unique body rolling under the force of life's cycle, which transforms the shapes of the body, then, transforming its function in relation to the system. This flow is represented by spheres and arrows. The arrows represents the dimension time, advancing with the flow, every point of the circuit represents the age of the flow at that point. The spheres represents the specific space/shape of the flow at a fixed point in time, which means "space dimension", so, in relation to space the flow acquires the shape of a particle, a material body. But... we can not see the aspect time, it is hidden inside the body, in fact the arrows does not exists in relation to our perceptions, so, time flows as a wave.

Then, if you are a giant at the size of a galaxy and millions years old and is observing a human being with electronic microscope, the lifespan of the human being is like a flash where the shapes of embryo, teenager, adult, etc., flows in a second. If you get to fix at a given momentum the shape of the body, its particle aspect, you can not see its age at that momentum, the speed of its bodies transformations and lifespan. And vice-versa, if you fix its speed in time you don't get any fixed shape.

Heisenberg was this giant observing particles. If the logics of Matrix/DNA will be proved the right one, which suggests that "as bellow, as above" (considering that this is a human concept, since that for Nature there is no above and below in relation to space/time) - primordial particles at the Big Bang were our first ancestrals and they were a system in itself. They were our primordial ancestors in the sense that human beings are genes in shape of conscious genes working for building a unique conscious embryo, and those particles were working genes building the universal systems that has developed and today are human beings.

If this is right, those particles must have the properties of life. They are born, they grow, they get maturation, they decay and they die. All these events happens in a mychron-mychron second of Heisenberg's lifespan. Then, Heisenberg's had the same problem as you would have being a galactic giant observing the body of a human being. But, another particles observing that particle would see shape and age at same time, like we see a human and see shape and we can calculating its age at same time, no uncertainty to them. There is no weird effect here, it is merely a relativistic issue.

2) The aspect of particle and wave of a unique body is explained by the Matrix formula, where our own body is composed at the same time by the wave of time and by the momentum shape as a space's particle.

And so on, I think that every weird phenomena from quantum mechanics will be explained by the same natural laws that rules our human dimension and the macro dimension. But there is another phenomena for consideration: the dimension below atomic level is a continuation of primordial times of evolution which always begins in shape of chaos. Then, with development the chaos is going to becoming ordered state. That is why the ordered state of astronomical dimension seems to be different from the chaotic state of quantum phenomena. It is not different because the laws that brings on the ordered state are the unique laws already existent in middle of chaos. It happens that natural laws are also under evolution, from the simplest to the most complex, like the human systemic social laws have been under evolution, since the tribal agreements of primordial times to the modern nations' constitutions.

We need training our mind for making all this operations at light speed for understanding fast a new phenomena and inserting it in the whole, for understanding it existential meaning. But if human culture continuing applying imaginative walls separating the micro from the medium from the macro dimensions of space/time, our students never will be able to do it. And theirs logics will not be the logics of reality. Sorry to say that...

It is not merely quantum effects that we can bring on here as samples of how this arbitrary separation prejudices our world view. Biology, Geology, Neurology, Biochemistry, etc, are full of samples. Let's see a sample from Geology: Nobody in this intense debate about climate change is considering that the natural normal development of our planet must causes toxic ingredients into atmosphere and heating the surface. Of course, the human made toxic ingredients and urbanization/mechanization is accelerating the process, but it is not of such importance, since that any minimal change from the planet is accounted in million or billion years. If we want that natural climate change be slowed, we will have to build giants oxide/filtering for volcanoes craters and oceans valves where is escaping internal vents. NASA is building a defense system against big meteorites reaching the planets' surface from the space; but we will need building a defense system against micro particles coming from below, from the planets' nuclear reactions.

The Matrix/DNA formula can not help us to understanding in full how works this planet due missing more work analysing the formula, and I alone have no time and data for doing it. It happens that Nature applies two methods for astronomical system formation - like applied two methods for cell system formation. The first cell was formed by symbioses of existent shapes of a unique molecule, which where connected by the universal sequence ruled by the life's cycle process. From the first cells, they learned how to be formed replicating themselves. For astronomical systems we had same history. And I don't know if this galaxy and stellar system was formed by the first process or by the second process. In the first process, planets were carrying on inside them, the seed of a star as its nucleus. So, the increasing in heat surface was normal, till the planet becoming a pulsar and from here, a supernova. I have not calculated how this aspect is transformed in the second process, which seems to be the case of Earth. But, the existence of giant gas planets like Jupiter in an orbit more distant of the Sun indicates that the first process is being kept in their stellar system. Jupiter is becoming more gas due the nucleus eating the geological layers and more lightest, which makes it escaping from the Sun's gravitational pull, till Jupiter going out of the system and becoming a supernova. If others planets here gets the activating its nuclear reactions they will follow the same path. And with man made climate change or not, this planet will not support life.

( Sorry by the 2.000 words in no intelligible English, I know that nobody will read it, but this is the problem of the systemic approach and introduction to a new never imagined before world view. We will have this problem with aliens encounters, who has another kind of logics, and is good that we begin to training for it...)


There was no origins of life and universe, astronomical systems are half-alive, light waves contains the code for life and DNA is not a code: Matrix/DNA Theory

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TheMatrix/DNA
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Message 148 of 149 (766666)
08-20-2015 1:05 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by ICANT
07-19-2015 4:49 PM


Re: To ICANT
Hi, ICANT, gladly to see you here. Sorry my absence here, I was in the jungle without Internet.

quote:
Sorry to burst your balloon but I have read every word you have posted in this thread

Congratulations. It means that you are really interested in this topic and are mind-opened to new theories.

quote:
Am I understanding you to be putting forth the idea that all the complexity that is found in human DNA has evolved from chaos as well as the DNA in all other creatures and things?

Well... the method of comparative anatomy between living and non-living systems lead me to design a link between this galaxy ( the most evolved non-living system that came from cosmological evolution) and the primordial cell system ( the first living system). This link is a perfect closed system, a kind of perpetual motor, it is LUCA - our Last Universal Common Ancestor. It has the property of self-recycling, it is isolated in the space, it does not need anything from outside for living. One of my biggest surprise in my life was when I was analyzing this system and saw there all seven symbols used by the Bible to describe the Eden Paradise. Yes, if you know to read the maps, you see clearly, the serpent (the spherical systemic circuit is like a serpent swelling, eating, its own tail), Adam and Eve, the tree, the apple, etc., and really, for that system it has created the paradise for himself. Imagine this surprise for someone that always thought that the Bible is merely a fair-tale and does not know if God exists or not.

But... this link produced the first cell system, which is not a closed system, it is not perfect, not self-recycling and it is the daughter of the necessity, can't hold the initial energy. So, the first question was: why such big mutation, and for worst? I found an answer in thermodynamic theory, entropy. And calculating which would be the final result of entropy attacking this system, the results suggests that the system was fragmented into its smallest bit-informations, and these bits were spreaded in the space. Meeting at Earth surface these bits had the tendency to join with their antique neighbors, and every time that grew a packet of those bits, there was a new molecular species. As son of necessity and non-complete, weak system, plus the adverse environment, it was the chaos to them. Again I remembered the Bible: " Then there was the Fall, and the Adam's offspring were son of the needs..."

We need take in account that this process from astronomical/mechanical to microscopic/biological is like any genetic transmission process with a special difference: while biological systems self-reproduces keeping the genes inside an envelope, the chromosoma, the passage from astronomical was with the genes spreaded in time and space. Biological system produces copies of them, while the astronomical system produces a big diversity of derived copies.

So, yes, the Matrix/DNA Theory is suggesting that we are the sons of chaos, but, it was not necessary the Matrix telling that. I am in the jungle seeing chaos everywhere and here we came from. It is not that "all the complexity that is found in human DNA has evolved from chaos". Because all the complexity that is found in the chimpanzees ( our closest relatives, relating to DNA), were existing in the sky 10 billion years ago, in shape of the building block of astronomical systems. The difference is that at astronomical level, these life's properties are electromagnetic/mechanical. So, the chimpanzees' complexity were not evolved here at Earth, and before the chaos, there was the ordered state, as closed perfect system. And after chimpanzees, from humans emerged consciousness, which was not a property of LUCA. Matrix/DNA is suggesting that consciousness is a new shape of that universal system and it comes from a more evolved system than LUCA - the system that was existing before the Universe.

You ask..." from chaos as well as the DNA in all other creatures and things?" Well... The Big Bang Theory pictured the beginnings of the Universe as a chaotic state. Also the Bible says same thing. And the Matrix/DNA's calculations arrived to the first moments of the Universe and saw chaos also. The explanation is that, again, the reproductive process of that unknown system that generates universes is made by the same method that galaxies creates life: spreading the bits-information in tine and space, instead biological reproduction where the genes are kept closed inside a membrane and the embryo develops in a ordered state.

Do you know something? I think it is wonderful this " divine" method, because it respects the free-will of the genes. The genes suffering in the chaos but they are free to build what they want, and generating the big diversity. What free will have the genes of a human embryo under the ordered state? It is like you said here: they have no alternative if not building a human being. And we, human beings, are just now ( together with any other intelligent life form in the Universe) the genes building this new embryo inside our heads, called consciousness.

We know that the genes of our parents lift up to the brain inside the neurons. So, our individual identity is the result of the sum of all genes, they becomes one. It suggests that all human beings, as genes, will be one, when the embryo of consciousness will have birth. And after that, all conscious be of the Universe will be one. So, if a unique human being, as gene, does not accomplish his/her mission, we will be a handicapped individual. From here, from Matrix/DNA world view, emerges the universal best moral code for " love". We need to help every human being because he/she has an information, a message, that nobody else has, and we need it, we need that all human beings stands in good conditions for accomplishing their mission here.

Cheers...

Edited by TheMatrix/DNA, : No reason given.


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Message 149 of 149 (766673)
08-20-2015 1:44 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by ICANT
07-19-2015 4:49 PM


Re: To Dr Adequate
quote:
That a single cell life form somehow began to exist from non existence and then began the process of evolution from a very simple RNA to a simple DNA and finally into the complex DNA that is in every human cell. It takes a CD or better of storage space (depending on who you are reading behind) to hold all the DNA information in each human cell.

Where did all that added information come from? Chaos can not produce it. Neither can mutations as most of them are determentinal to the cell.


ICANT,

Have you seen the last images of the universe coming from NASA? There are ones that are astonishing. It seems clouds of all colors designing shapes, etc. Now, please, imagine that we are microscopic intelligent particles living inside an atom inside a ribosome inside a cell inside a human body. Those microbes also have telescopes and they points out to outside the cell. What they must see? Clouds of gases, but you - as human being - knows that instead cloud of gases they are seeing organs, like the stomach, etc.

So, we are these microbes beginning to see the Universe. I am not suggesting that the Universe is a living being with organs, etc. My method has revealed a never imagined before complexity hidden inside astronomical systems. It is suggesting that the universe is like the fossil of our antique ancestor, that is working like a placenta, inside which and from who we ( our soft meat body) came from. The method has suggested a new model of astronomical system that is equal a cell system. If so, the living cell did not come from non-existence, it is coming from a unique evolutionary lineage that is 13,7 billions years, at least.

But where all that information came from? Of course, the Universe is not magical, it can not create new information from nothing. All information were here at the Big Bang. Like in genetics, genes are not expressed all at the same time, there are those that are expressed later.

Matrix/DNA is suggesting that inside this Universe is occurring a genetic reproductive process of the natural conscious system that was existing before and was the responsible by the Big Bang. Why it must be conscious? Again, the Universe could not creating consciousness from nothing. There are various mathematical theorems (Godel, Tarsky) showing that matter by itself can not jump to self-consciousness alone. The human embryonary sac reveals consciousness at the 7 month, the Universe reveals it at the 13,7 billion years old, what is the problem? It is merely a relativistic issue. I have hundreds of pages calculating models of the beginnings, most based on the fabulous theory of atomic glue by the Nobel Physics Hideky Yukawa. A quantum vortex popping out from the Big Bang has all seven natural forces and mixing them we get numbers like 1,94809576884637, or 1,98465860798756545... these is the initial universal bit of information. It works like genes.

Now... you know that an embryo "think" that the embryonic sac is the whole universe. Ask to him where all those information, those genes, come from, he does not know. But you know: from the parents!

Who are the parents?! I don't know, I am an embryo of consciousness that think that this universe is the whole world... I even did not opened my eyes for seeing my own body, I don't know what substance I am made off, as consciousness.

I don't worry with these people saying to you that the cell came from non-existence, that evolution creates new information never existed before, etc. They have not showed data or enough evidences asserting their theories. They are like those authors that wrote the Bible, about the Eden Paradise. I learned that the " paradise" is registered into our DNA, and the right mental effort can stimulate neurons to flash images of it, obscure and non-comprehensible images. It is up to the individual how he/she will interpret and connect the images. If a primitive individual with tendencies to magical thinking and anthropomorphising everything, the images of our astronomical ancestor will be enrolled in a fair-tale with voices coming from God. If he is naturalist philosopher, so, an extreme rational materialist, suffering high fevers due malaria and facing the chaotic hell of the jungle, he will see the same flashes and interpret it as our past celestial shape when we did a big mistake, a fatal sin, becoming closed system which expressed the extreme selfish character... and we must declare war on our selfish gene as said Dawkins. But... maybe the philosopher is far away off the beam also, he is searching answers for his suffering.

We are in a race, each theory searching evidences, facts, for proving itself. The victory must be with the Truth, and if these people criticizing you have the right theory, I wish to be the looser.
Everyday I am crazy waiting new data, selecting those that are evidences or right previous prediction from my models, like the one recently when the Rosetta robot discovered organic molecules in the comet surface. Then I commemorate because it is a big victory for Matrix/DNA, since that 30 years ago I was analyzing the Matrix formula and saw that comets carries the informations related to Y chromosome spreading it as seed of life in the space. For a half-monkey in the jungle this is a big victory, man!
Cheers...

Edited by TheMatrix/DNA, : No reason given.

Edited by TheMatrix/DNA, : No reason given.


There was no origins of life and universe, astronomical systems are half-alive, light waves contains the code for life and DNA is not a code: Matrix/DNA Theory

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