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Author Topic:   Should there be a law against public institutions that lie for money?
Greatest I am
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Message 39 of 59 (763546)
07-26-2015 8:17 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by ringo
07-16-2015 1:14 PM


ringo
No.
Above the law: America's worst charities | CNN
I am suggesting that those listed here in this link are abusing the system when only a very small % ends up where they say their donations ends up.
Lincolns for staff is hardly charity.
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DL

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Message 40 of 59 (763547)
07-26-2015 8:22 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by NoNukes
07-16-2015 2:01 PM


NoNukes
Keep to the issue and not the personal and you might get better results.
"It turns out that the Constitution prevents the state from making such determinations."
Tell that to those, like Koresh, just before the government moves in.
As to your first amendment. If it was well written in the first place, no amendments would have been required.
Your country is run by oligarch owners just as the rest of the world is.
The fact that you do not see it makes your opinions near worthless.
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DL

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Message 41 of 59 (763548)
07-26-2015 8:26 PM
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07-16-2015 2:30 PM


Re: laws or education?
RAZD
It is hard to educate properly when your religious side is large and without morals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dtC052f9A4
The land of the brave is trying hard to become the land of the dumb.
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DL

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Message 42 of 59 (763549)
07-26-2015 8:29 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by AZPaul3
07-16-2015 7:37 PM


AZPaul3
Yes. Liars and immoral pricks.
Look at the % that actually gets to those who need it.
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DL

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Message 44 of 59 (765214)
07-27-2015 10:09 AM
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07-26-2015 9:46 PM


Re: Link(s) for this would have been a nice thing
^^
Thanks for this.
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DL

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Message 46 of 59 (765323)
07-27-2015 11:58 AM
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07-27-2015 11:52 AM


ringo
If the laws are that badly written that those corporations and religions can get away with their lies and their fleeing of the public then they should be scrapped for a new law.
If the law is deemed to be good then enforcement should be the rule of the day.
Otherwise, the government should be clear as to what it deems moral or not in terms of value for $ for the givers and force the companies to put up if they can or get out of the lying business if they cannot.
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DL

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Message 48 of 59 (765326)
07-27-2015 12:09 PM
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07-27-2015 12:02 PM


ringo
"Since when is the government in the business of guaranteeing value for $?"
Since the time that they decided to be the ones to control the tax exemptions.
What governments need do is set a minimum return to the charity or disallow the tax break.
To do less is complicity in fraud as far as I am concerned.
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DL

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Message 52 of 59 (765375)
07-28-2015 11:14 AM
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07-27-2015 12:32 PM


ringo
Do you think 0% to be a moral % and reason enough for you and I to have to pay the tax burden that that charity is putting into it's own pocket?
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DL

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Message 54 of 59 (765391)
07-28-2015 1:19 PM
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07-28-2015 11:46 AM


ringo
I agree. That way our funds are not supporting fat cats and their Cadillacs and pleasure cruisers.
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DL

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Message 56 of 59 (765400)
07-28-2015 3:29 PM
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07-28-2015 1:22 PM


ringo
Many reasons but the main one is cross border NGO's are better accepted all ove4r the world than GO's.
Some of the charities work well and bringing others to that standard of excellence is better than throwing out the baby with the bath water.
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DL

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Message 58 of 59 (765524)
07-30-2015 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by ringo
07-29-2015 3:06 PM


ringo
If any legal part of government and it's legal staff is looking at those numbers and do not see fraud, then we need a new definition for fraud based on morality because the list I gave shows clearly that what we presently accept and do prosecute is not moral.
I do not know how the laws of various countries are written but this present situation is pure corruption from MPOV.
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DL

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