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Faith 
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Message 15 of 276 (766465)
08-18-2015 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
08-17-2015 8:24 AM


some privilege
Even granting that white privilege exists as described by some here, the problem I think Phat is trying to bring to the table is that middle class and working class whites hardly feel privileged, and when we hear that we are we resent those who seem to us to be trying to bump us off the social map with their claims of being underprivileged and deserving special treatment.
I didn't grow up in the South and my family was decidedly "blue collar" working class. It's unfortunate but I never knew any blacks until I grew up and then it was in the context of being called their oppressor. Out of the blue it seemed. You're going along trying to cope with the disadvantages of your own situation and then you get accused of disadvantaging someone else and it's hard not to feel unfairly targeted.
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Message 20 of 276 (766519)
08-18-2015 7:52 PM
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08-18-2015 7:03 PM


Re: some privilege
Yes, I granted that white privilege is no doubt a reality, but it's unfair in the extreme to make people guilty of sins against others due to a privilege they are completely unaware of, did nothing to benefit from or used to anyone else's disadvantage, especially those who had a lot of disadvantage to struggle with themselves due to the condition they were born into. There is deep injustice in this even if there is also injustice in the white privilege itself. I think you need to acknowledge this.

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Faith 
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Message 22 of 276 (766523)
08-18-2015 8:00 PM
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08-18-2015 7:53 PM


Re: Getting the Facts Straight
Add Jewish privilege to that since they are known to be great achievers. I never knew any blacks or Jews or Asians growing up, a few Hispanics but otherwise only whites, but when I did meet blacks I was made to feel guilty for sins I never committed against them. Not so with Asians or Jews, who were clearly high achievers and didn't need to make me feel responsible for them.

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Message 36 of 276 (766550)
08-19-2015 5:37 AM
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08-18-2015 9:25 PM


Re: some privilege
I'm sick of this social milieu in which a person is never left alone but accused of a million things that never even crossed our minds. Big Brother breathing down our necks. Mind your own business.

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Faith 
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Message 37 of 276 (766552)
08-19-2015 6:36 AM
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08-19-2015 5:37 AM


If Re: some privilege
It's one thing to try to persuade someone to a point of view, to try to motivate compassion toward some group or person, to offer suggestions about what could be done, it's something entirely different to point the finger at people for failing to do something YOU think they should do, accuse them, vilify them, and fail to sympathize with their own problems. That's the method of liberalism. Liberals are intrusive self-righteous busybodies. Mind your own business.

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Faith 
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Message 44 of 276 (766564)
08-19-2015 9:17 AM
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08-19-2015 8:37 AM


Re: some privilege
I'm sorry, liberal fingerpointing is disgusting. Your accusatory attitude is nauseating. Who said anything about ignoring anything, that's your busybody liberal mindset working overtime. I haven't said a word about my own opinion of the problems of white privilege, what I'm talking about is the Big Brother attitude, making stuff up to accuse people of. That's what you're doing. Yuck, blech. Liberals don't know how to do anything but accuse accuse accuse, pick an issue and accuse somebody of it. Put themselves in judgment over others. And no, I do not do that.
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Faith 
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Message 47 of 276 (766587)
08-19-2015 1:01 PM
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08-19-2015 11:00 AM


Re: Judge Not
You don't know how to distinguish the one thing from the other either, and you also show the very liberal mindset I'm talking about in making up another personal fault to accuse me of. Why can't anyone here tell the difference between judging personal guilt versus ideological error or any of the other distinctions you all regularly fail to make. How tiresome, how futile.

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Message 61 of 276 (766630)
08-19-2015 5:15 PM
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08-19-2015 1:59 PM


Re: Judge Not
Yes perhaps you are Marie of Romania.

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Faith 
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Message 76 of 276 (766689)
08-20-2015 11:04 AM


Some of the privileged white folks (I'm speaking of the banjo player's kin) who probably haven't ever given white privilege a thought:
Yeah, maybe not very relevant but isn't that a great scene?
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