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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 285 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Refusing to recognize gay marriage is now a crime. Not really. You could look at a gay marriage all you like and say "No, I don't know what it is ... could it be three large chickens playing canasta?" and no-one would lift a finger to stop you.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Chrjstian businesses asked to perform a service for a gay wedding were already being treated as criminal for refusing to do so before the SCOTUS decision; that can only increase. Now, if the authorities were inclined to, they could arrest a pastor for preaching from the parts of the Bible that affirm marriage as for one man and one woman and that homosexuality is a sin. For that matter, they could come knock on my door and inquire what my opinion of gay marriage is, and if I say it's a violation of God's law they could arrest me. That they haven't yet done so and may not for some time is really kind of irrelevant when the law says they could. And there is every reason to believe that there are plenty of gay activists who are gearing up for just this sort of campaign.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 285 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Chrjstian businesses asked to perform a service for a gay wedding were already being treated as criminal for refusing to do so before the SCOTUS decision; that can only increase Even they weren't asked to recognize it, just to make cakes.
Now, if the authorities were inclined to, they could arrest a pastor for preaching from the parts of the Bible that affirm marriage as for one man and one woman and that homosexuality is a sin. No.
For that matter, they could come knock on my door and inquire what my opinion of gay marriage is, and if I say it's a violation of God's law they could arrest me. No.
That they haven't yet done so and may not for some time is really kind of irrelevant when the law says they could. No. This is why you can't find the law that says they could.
And there is every reason to believe that there are plenty of gay activists who are gearing up for just this sort of campaign. Every reason, you say? Well I'd hate to think that there were just one or two, or indeed the zero you allude to in your post. But they're "gearing up", you say? That suggests not merely the likelihood, but also the imminence of the Great Homophobe Purge. And so I would once more like to offer you a bet. You just say when you expect all this to go down. We could have a little wager. How about if I'm right, I win $100, and if you're right ... I'll let you hide in my basement. Do you really believe any of this stuff you come out with?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You are playing word games. "Recognize" in this context means to treat it as valid, which Bible believing Christians will not do.
Oh this should start soon I would think, next few months even. A single instance of challenging a Christian business enough for you? But I'd only bet on five years. Do they have basements in Las Vegas? I thought there was too much danger of flash flooding for that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I might prefer jail to your basement.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 285 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
You are playing word games. "Recognize" in this context means to treat it as valid, which Bible believing Christians will not do. They don't have to do that either. Unless they're bureaucrats.
Oh this should start soon I would think, next few months even. A single instance of challenging a Christian business enough for you? "Challenging a Christian business"? I don't even know what you mean by that. But what you wrote was: "Now, if the authorities were inclined to, they could arrest a pastor for preaching from the parts of the Bible that affirm marriage as for one man and one woman and that homosexuality is a sin. For that matter, they could come knock on my door and inquire what my opinion of gay marriage is, and if I say it's a violation of God's law they could arrest me. That they haven't yet done so and may not for some time is really kind of irrelevant when the law says they could. And there is every reason to believe that there are plenty of gay activists who are gearing up for just this sort of campaign." Do you actually think this will happen?
Do they have basements in Las Vegas? I thought there was too much danger of flash flooding for that. We don't, I said that for the purposes of drama. When the day comes, I shall hide you in my spare bedroom.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
"Challenging a Christian business" just means asking for service for a gay wedding which of course the business will refuse, whether you think they should or not.
Yes I believe all that I said could very well happen in the near future. No, I don't feel like betting again, I already have a bet in with you and don't even remember what it's about. If you want to hide Christians, though, you need to build a space behind fake walls as some of the Dutch did for the Jews in WWII. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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Be honest Faith. There's more chance of 'Christians" hunting down gays than the other way around.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Evidence please. I've shown evidence of five or six gay attacks on businesses already, there is none on your side. But lies like yours are very likely to be fuel for the anti-Christian actions I am expecting.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
We know that Christiams have supported anti-sodomy laws in the U.S. And complained about their repeal. And called for them to be restored We know that "Christians" express support for laws criminalising homosexual behaviour in Africa, and the repressive laws in Russia.
I really doubt that you have anything that compares.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I was thinking of entrapment and vandalism. However, I see you prefer sodomy over the religion that built Western Civilization in the latest fashion of putting evil for good, sin over innocence. That being the case I bow out.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
And again your argument itself shows the likelihood of persecution of Christians.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
quote: Even when you wrote:
Now, if the authorities were inclined to, they could arrest a pastor for preaching from the parts of the Bible that affirm marriage as for one man and one woman and that homosexuality is a sin. For that matter, they could come knock on my door and inquire what my opinion of gay marriage is, and if I say it's a violation of God's law they could arrest me.
? Which, by the way, is an outright falsehood, and I don't believe that you have any excuse for not knowing that it is false. Of course I do think that outright criminalisation is more serious than isolated acts of vandalism and what you call "entrapment" (which, of course, "Christians" have attempted too. And even then the target is bigotry rather than Christianity. Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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quote: How so? The fact that "Christians" are the ones in favour of persecution hardly shows that they are likely to be the persecuted.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 285 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
"Challenging a Christian business" just means asking for service for a gay wedding which of course the business will refuse .. Not necessarily: even Christians will sometimes follow the teachings of Jesus and the law.
Yes I believe all that I said could very well happen in the near future. No, I don't feel like betting again, I already have a bet in with you ... And you wouldn't like to win even more of my money? You could really clean up here, with your singular talent for predicting the future.
If you want to hide Christians, though, you need to build a space behind fake walls as some of the Dutch did for the Jews in WWII. I was thinking of just telling everyone you're an atheist. Christians look just like regular people.
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