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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
"Challenging a Christian business" just means asking for service for a gay wedding which of course the business will refuse ..
Not necessarily: even Christians will sometimes follow the teachings of Jesus and the law. Jesus and God's law are represented by the entire Bible. Bible-believing Christians will refuse to validate gay marriage because it's very very clear in the Bible that that would violate God's law and Jesus' teachings. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 295 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
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You contradict yourself. If works and deeds are required for true love, the both parties would need to act thus reciprocity must ne there or at least the desire must be assumed. There are not many wartime stories of someone helping the enemy and such traitorous acts do not occur unless the perpetrator does not see the enemy as the enemy. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 295 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith
Do you think you would be able to stone people for sexual crimes? Your bible call for that. Are you also ready to stone unruly children? Why do you think Christians never advocate for biblical law to be the law of the land? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGFEDYrkDek RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 295 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith et all.
Faith worries about what gays are doing while I worry more of what the heterosexual are doing. I just place this in the proposed O.P. and invite comment ifr and when it is placed. Phat. I hope my showing it is allowed and if not then please delete this post. Sex and porn may be why women are joining Islam? There are two statistics that I find interesting. The first is that the non-religious demographic are the fastest growing as compared to other religious organizations. The second is that women in relatively high numbers are joining Islam. We all know that Islam, a misogynous religion, has about 5,000 + Honor killings of women yearly, yet women are still moving to it from other religions and secular circles. This clip may be one of the main reasons for it as Muslim men seem to pay much more attention to what they think is the quality of men within Islam. Some tips for how to talk to your teen about watching porn. HINT: It's not to tell them to stop. - Upworthy Is it possible that in sexual matters, Islam might be ahead of the West in their thinking? If not, then what should the West do to help us save our boys and young men as well as our young girls and women from the indoctrination via porn into unhealthy and unwanted sexual habits? Is it possible that women worldwide are telling us, --- by joining Islam, --- that they are tired of just being seen as mouths, vaginas and rectums, --- and would rather join a misogynous patriarchal religion than to remain being thought of as just mouths, vaginas and rectums? RegardsDL
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Faith Do you think you would be able to stone people for sexual crimes? Your bible call for that. Are you also ready to stone unruly children? Why do you think Christians never advocate for biblical law to be the law of the land? The cheekiness plus ignorance of unbelievers is tiresome. I've spent the last thirty years since I became a believer learning about the history of orthodox Christianity, how the law was fulfilled by Christ among other things, only to have to put up with this kind of stupppidity from people who know nothing, deny everything orthodox Christianity teaches and advocate aggressive measures against true believers on the basis of the unspiritual opinions of the fallen mind. Blech. But that will be what the End Times religion is made of, so I guess I have to chalk it up to fulfilled prophecy. Sexual crimes undermine community, and blur the meaning of marriage as a reflection of the uniting of Christ with His Bride. You may think them trivial; God does not. Yes, ancient Israel was given the responsibility of prosecuting capital violations of God's Law by the method of gathering together the community to stone violators to death. The laws were designed to protect the community from sins that could spread through it and undermine it. That would include the arrogant disobedience of children. Except it wasn't children, it was young adult offspring that were to be stoned to death for their refusal to obey. Ancient Israel was God's chosen people, representing Him in the world against all the other nations that followed the religions invented by the devil since the Fall. Having the entire community come together to stone to death the violators was a way of giving cohesiveness to the community, to impress on them the immediacy and importance of violations of His Law, and give them no escape from their own personal responsibility for upholding it. AND to teach us all how seriously God takes violations of His Law. When Jesus came His own obedience and death on the cross paid for all violations of the law, AND the Chosen People were now believers in Christ, no longer the blood descendants of Abraham, not a nation that could have its own laws in the world separate from others, but a people scattered among all the nations and subject to their laws. We are no longer under the Law given to the Israelites. No, I will not read any of your links. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 295 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith
You seem to be ready to stone children. You show us all what your religion has done to your morality. "Sexual crimes undermine community, and blur the meaning of marriage as a reflection of the uniting of Christ with His Bride. You may think them trivial; God does not." I just showed by that proposed O.P. the exact opposite but believe what you will. I think that you are quite close to insane as shown by your ability and desire to stone people to death for minor offences. RegardsDL
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I corrected the word "children." It means offspring but older offspring, like the sons of Eli whom Eli wouldn't correct, so God took the lives of all of them.
Capital punishment is also a picture of God's own punishments for sin, intended for us to learn how seriously He takes sin. If you won't take anything I say seriously I guess you'll have to learn it from Him when the time comes.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 295 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith
Does your WORD not say that justice is close to an eye for an eye? Or if you will, that punishment should fit the crime or sin. RegardsDL
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You misrepresent me. I'm no more "worried" about "what gays are doing" than the sins of heterosexuals. The reason gays are the focus so often here is the attempt to make their sin into something normal and to push "gay marriage." If you want to focus on hetero sins, yes they are also sins, but nobody is trying to make them normal yet.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Eye for an eye is indeed an obvious expression of perfect justice, which is what criminal prosecution should aim for. I suppose you are going to go on and claim that Jesus rescinded that concept of justice, but He didn't, not as the definition of criminal prosecution, only as the standard for individual treatment of sins against oneself. I can turn the other cheek for an insult to myself; a slap on the cheek being an insult, but the justice system must actually execute justice for the sake of society. Two entirely different contexts that unbelievers love to confuse.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 295 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith
Seems you did not listen to that link. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 295 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith
If an rye for an eye is an obvious expression of perfect justice, as you say, then is killing for a sin that is less than killing, like sex sins and the punishing of unruly children not less than perfect justice and overkill? Your God seems to disagree as all sin has the same overkill punishment. Why does your God not follow what you say is perfect justice? RegardsDL
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
As I believe I said, God is trying to teach us what HE regards as serious sin, worthy of capital punishment. We'll never get so our laws won't reflect it, but there it is.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 295 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith
So God can ignore perfect justice. We are to emulate God in all ways so you are in a sense saying that we too can ignore perfect justice. You can try to justify your belief system but it falls flat. If your God cannot even follow what you say is perfect justice then like many believers, you cannot give a moral judgement as your religion has corrupted your morals where you will forgive your God for doing what you would condemn men for doing. RegardsDL
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No, as I just said, His equation IS perfect justice though it escapes us.
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