Unless you are claiming to have proof that you have held back it seems to be a clear fact.
Certainly you have offered no justification for your assertion that Daniel 11 suddenly switches from talking about Antiochus Epiphanes to talking about somebody else living thousands of years later. Why on earth should a "skeptic and a realist" believe that ?
quote: Believe that I can, but will not for you unless you change your attitude
Why should I believe that you can produce proof when you have already failed to do so? In a discussion you cannot expect points that appear to be self-evidently false to be unquestioningly accepted. If you are not ready to provide the support, then it is better to refrain from making the assertion.
Also, I will point out that you have still not dealt with the evidence of Daniel 8 identifying the "little horn" as a Diadochi ruler. An omission that I find quite telling.
And what is wrong with my attitude?
quote: The preteristic view of Bible prophecy attempts to push large portions of future unfulfilled prophecy into the past in order to protect preconceived organizational dogmas
Whereas you clearly attempt to push prophecy into the future to protect your dogmas. I don't consider that a better approach, nor one that should be needed if Biblical prophecy were genuinely easy to understand and 100% accurate.
quote: The methodology used is to switch from the literal to the metaphorical/allegorical interpretation when convenient
Now you are just being silly. I interpret the vision given in Daniel 8 (verses 3-12) symbolically. I do not think that goat isliterally a goat, the horns are literally horns or that the little horn literally grows to enormous size and knocks stars down from the sky.
I interpret the explanation of the vision (20-25) as conveying the meaning of the vision
Any sensible person would do the same. There is no shifting between metaphorical/allegorical interpretation from convenience. The shift comes directly in the text.
quote: Interpret Zechariah 14 for the forum
Quite frankly, to do a proper job of it would take more work than I have time for right now, so I must decline.
Then why are you so confused about the identity of the "little horn"?
Daniel 8 is really quite clear in identifying him as Greek, associating him with the Diadochi states, and even tells us that the prophecy takes place in the time of the Diadochi states.
You would think that if the "little horn" was a modern Muslim leader we might at least see the rise of Islam alongside Alexander's empire, and an acknowledgement that the Diadochi states fell more than 2000 years earlier.
Here is the break between the rule of Antiochus IV, the last king of the north [Daniel 11:21-25] ....... and the next king of the north [the little horn] at the time appointed [Daniel 11:36-45; 12:7; Micah 5:5-6; Revelation 13:1-4]
Not the same rulers, but living centuries apart with different profiles
Do not let Paulk fool you
He is preteristic in his thinking and meddles with interpretive attempts to relegate unfulfilled prophecy into the past
This kind of thinking also does the same thing with the future time of Jacob's Israel's trouble [Jeremiah 30] and the coming Islamic Caliph's invasion and occupation of Israel [Daniel 11:41; Zechariah: 12; 13; 14; Matthew 24:15-16; Luke 21:20-36; Revelation 11:2; 12:6-12:14]
The preterist claims that all of the above taken together occurred at the Roman incursions in 70 AD
Anyone reading the above scriptures can see that all of the events taken together simply have never taken place in the past
And this is why Paulk refuses to interpret Zechariah 14 .... the entire passage is of future unfulfilled events .... these things cannot possibly be relegated to any historical setting
So the preterist has to commit selective metaphorical/allegory in an attempt to destroy the prophet's future predictions
And this behavior is the confusion of preterism .... drawing the line between passed fulfilled prophecy with that which is yet to come in the wrong place
Even to the extent that the Lord has already returned by placing this event into the past .... in 70 AD
Preterism on this scale is dangerously skewed and the hallmark of most of the membership of the professing church today
Here is the Lord's warning to the same
Revelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Any who have been deceived by the dogma of preterism living at the time of His next intervention to bring judgment are at great risk and these will be tossed into His unprecedented wrath upon the earth
.... and the same will face the severe persecutions of Satan's beast and false prophet
If any reading this post end up in the coming tribulation, know that your repentance and turning to the Lord will be required .... otherwise you will be rejected by Him and lost forever with no recourse [Revelation 20:11-15]