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Author Topic:   Religions are fairy tales for adults. Should we encourage them to grow up?
Tangle
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Message 271 of 424 (767666)
08-31-2015 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 270 by Faith
08-31-2015 2:30 PM


Re: HRe: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
Faith writes:
God told Noah that he who takes a life should have his life taken. He should also be given the gospel of salvation.
So who's right NT Jesus or OT God?
But you didn't answer my question....don't you believe in redemption and rehabilitation, not to mention forgiveness; you know, all those good things that are generally known as Christian values.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Greatest I am
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Message 272 of 424 (767667)
08-31-2015 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 267 by Faith
08-31-2015 2:17 PM


Re: HRe: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
Faith
No one cares what you acce4pt or reject.
It is those of your ilk denying services to those you hate that is what is objectionable.
Hate all you like but recognize that you live in a land of laws and you are just as subject to those laws as the rest of us.
You are the satanic one for not dealing with the questions I posed. I guess that you did not like your own answers.
You deny that God creates gays.
Why is your God allowing nature then to creates gays if he does not want them to live and love like the rest of us, --- as well as enjoy sexual oneness?
Regards
DL

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Message 273 of 424 (767668)
08-31-2015 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 268 by Faith
08-31-2015 2:20 PM


Re: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
Faith
Why does your God allow Satan freedom to deceive me after he has already condemned her?
Regards
DL

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Message 274 of 424 (767669)
08-31-2015 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by Tangle
08-31-2015 3:05 PM


Re: HRe: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
Tangle
Asking a Christian to walk her talk is blasphemy.
Regards
DL

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Message 275 of 424 (767670)
08-31-2015 3:29 PM
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08-31-2015 3:05 PM


NRe: HRe: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
I only believe in gospel redemption and if a murderer repents and is saved that's wonderful, he or she will have eternal life though not escape the death penalty. Those who commit other crimes than willful murder may possibly be rehabilitated.
There is no difference between the God of the Old and New Testaments, they are one and the same, only different Persons.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 276 of 424 (767671)
08-31-2015 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by Greatest I am
08-31-2015 3:05 PM


Re: HRe: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
According to scripture, Romans 1:20-28, homosexuality is a form of God's judgment for idolatry, which would include various perversions of Christianity which have been flourishing in the west for about a century now. Homosexuality increases at the end of a series of denials of God.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 277 of 424 (767672)
08-31-2015 3:36 PM
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08-31-2015 3:07 PM


Re: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
Why does your God allow Satan freedom to deceive me after he has already condemned her?
Him.
I don't know but there seems to be a general trend to letting evil have its day until it has played itself out to the max before Jesus returns to put a complete end to it.

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Tangle
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Message 278 of 424 (767673)
08-31-2015 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 275 by Faith
08-31-2015 3:29 PM


Re: NRe: HRe: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
Faith writes:
I only believe in gospel redemption and if a murderer repents and is saved that's wonderful, he or she will have eternal life though not escape the death penalty. Those who commit other crimes than willful murder may possibly be rehabilitated.
There is no difference between the God of the Old and New Testaments, they are one and the same, only different Persons.
That is the most fucked up and downright un-Christian thing i've heard you say. If I was a religious person, I'd worry for your soul.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Faith 
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Message 279 of 424 (767674)
08-31-2015 3:55 PM
Reply to: Message 278 by Tangle
08-31-2015 3:53 PM


Re: NRe: HRe: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
It's pretty standard Christian theology all the way back.
Oh how you revisionists love criminals. Hate unborn babies but love criminals. And you call that good.

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Taq
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Message 280 of 424 (767676)
08-31-2015 4:01 PM
Reply to: Message 175 by Faith
08-28-2015 6:42 PM


Re: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
Brand new law never before in existence, barely two months old at this point, just happens to challenge the Bible. Just HAPPENS to challenge the Bible.
Challenge what part of the Bible? Where in the Bible does it say that you can't issue gay marriage licenses as part of your job?
It does remind me somewhat of how Hitler dealt with the Jews, taking away their rights by stages, starting with their guns I think, through law.
When did Christians ever have the right to refuse upholding the law as elected officials?

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Message 281 of 424 (767677)
08-31-2015 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by Faith
08-29-2015 5:13 AM


Re: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
This is about Christians being required by the law to act in a way that violates God's commandments to US.
Where did God command that Christians not issue gay marriage licenses as required by law or not bake cakes for gay people?

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Greatest I am
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Message 282 of 424 (767678)
08-31-2015 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 277 by Faith
08-31-2015 3:36 PM


Re: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
Faith
So why would you want a murderer killed if he has more killing that he would like to do?
If God's policy is good for God, and you are to emulate him in all things as scriptures urge you to do, then you should be against punishing murderers as they too may have more evil to play out?
Regards
DL

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Tangle
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Message 283 of 424 (767680)
08-31-2015 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 279 by Faith
08-31-2015 3:55 PM


Re: NRe: HRe: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
Faith writes:
It's pretty standard Christian theology all the way back.
All the way back to witch trials and thumb screws, correct. And none of that, none, has anything to do with Christianity.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 284 of 424 (767681)
08-31-2015 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 280 by Taq
08-31-2015 4:01 PM


Re: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
When did Christians ever have the right to refuse upholding the law as elected officials?
There were no laws Christians would be required by our faith to object to until the gay marriage ruling that requires us to choose between God and gay marriage.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 285 of 424 (767682)
08-31-2015 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 281 by Taq
08-31-2015 4:03 PM


Re: Clerk refuses to issue marriage license to gays
Where He ordained marriage for a man and a woman.

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