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Author Topic:   Is internet porn ruining our next generation? Is censorship the answer?
Greatest I am
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Message 1 of 144 (767688)
08-31-2015 7:48 PM


Is internet porn ruining our next generation? Is censorship the answer?
These scholars and experts are at the forefront of this research. Apologies but you will have to listen to at least one of these clips to get what this O.P. is all about.
Some tips for how to talk to your teen about watching porn. HINT: It's not to tell them to stop. - Upworthy
Philip Zimbardo: The demise of guys? | TED Talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKAehegqTvg&feature=em-su...
Is it possible that in sexual matters, the right wing conservatives might be ahead of the left wing in their thinking?
If not, then what should the left do to help us save our children from the indoctrination via internet porn into unhealthy and unwanted sexual habits? Or have them not be able to perform without porn?
I consider myself left wing but I think we may be going a tad far and should move to the right on this issue due to things like you saw in the clips above as well as what is shown in this clip below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a...
At one time, parents would have closed any shop that gave access to the young to porn. Yet today, parents do not seem to care and as more and more young children get cell phones, parental prohibition will be impossible.
Have parents forgotten how to parent and are men and women willing to allow the status quo to ruin the sexuality of the next generation?
"Censorship reflects society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime." - Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart
To date, I have lived by the above quote. I do not lack confidence in our adult population but see this issue as more of a medical one and I am willing to censure for our children's sake.
Some Eastern countries have used censorship to gain control of what their children can access. Should the West do the same?
Are our children worth it?
Regards
DL

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Message 4 of 144 (767691)
08-31-2015 9:19 PM
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08-31-2015 8:59 PM


Re: Internet What...?
Why?
Have you lost all your quick links?
Regards
DL

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Message 5 of 144 (767692)
08-31-2015 9:21 PM
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Re: Thread Moved from Proposed New Topics Forum
Not to complain of where you put this but censorship is a political question.
And the health of our young is a medical question and with censorship as the side issue is definitely political.
Regards
DL
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Message 8 of 144 (767711)
09-01-2015 8:15 AM
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08-31-2015 11:29 PM


Phat
I showed my dislike of censorship as well.
I also showed that as high as 50% of children between 12 and 25 are being effected to the point of dysfunction and addiction.
How high of a rate of damage would you tolerate before advocating for censorship?
Regards
DL
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Message 10 of 144 (767717)
09-01-2015 9:35 AM
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09-01-2015 8:33 AM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
RADZ
I showed what educators in Europe are teaching.
Care to share your thoughts on what is shown?
Even with education, the addictive properties of internet porn will get to a lot of our young me.
I showed that as high as 50% of children between 12 and 25 are being affected to the point of dysfunction and addiction.
Even if we were to drop that rate, how high of a rate of damage would you tolerate before advocating for censorship?
Regards
DL
P.S. I saw a thing on the news last night showing parents protesting because the government wants to increase sex education in schools. Parents are not qualified and most are not interested in doing so so.
Even the teachers are saying they are not trained and would look to nurses for the teaching.
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Message 12 of 144 (767743)
09-01-2015 12:56 PM
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09-01-2015 10:34 AM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
Tangle
All I have put comes from the links in the O.P.
That stat is in the first link.
All the links show statistics but not all the experts are saying where they are from.
Regards
DL

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Message 16 of 144 (767759)
09-01-2015 3:41 PM
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09-01-2015 2:08 PM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
Tangle
That is what I have in statistics.
I did watch a few programs and some are calling it an epidemic.
The net has quite a lot on the issue but I have not collected any other stats.
Regards
DL

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Message 17 of 144 (767760)
09-01-2015 3:43 PM
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09-01-2015 3:03 PM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
Coyote
Training!
Did you listen to the "training" that young men are training themselves for?
Money shots and what not.
I am so glad I am not young.
Regards
DL

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Message 28 of 144 (767797)
09-02-2015 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Tanypteryx
09-01-2015 4:38 PM


Re: Free Porn
Tanypteryx
Intelligent reply. Thanks.
Censorship is relatively easy. Try to find any child porn and see how hard it is.
You might review that first link as the expert speaks of how most parents are not teaching children about sex or porn.
Even if all parents were qualified to do that teaching, a % of kids will always ignore the warnings.
Censorship or restricted access is what is required and we do not have that. We could easily have it but adults are self-centered and do not care about the welfare of our children if it is to cost them one of their pleasures, it seems.
Regards
DL

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Message 29 of 144 (767798)
09-02-2015 9:23 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Tangle
09-01-2015 5:55 PM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
Tangle
Understood. You have access to the greatest education tool yet devised just as I do.
Gary Wilson indicated that because of the newness of research, statistics were hard to come by but the net is providing more and more on this issue daily and hopefully better statistics will pop up.
At present we have a lot of workers in the sex dysfunction field and they are the ones calling it an epidemic.
News agencies are as well but are not quoting stats.
Regards
DL

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Message 30 of 144 (767799)
09-02-2015 9:25 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Coyote
09-01-2015 6:04 PM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
Coyote
No argument.
I do not find this issue an amusing one and am not in that mindset when discussing it.
Regards
DL

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Message 31 of 144 (767800)
09-02-2015 9:29 AM
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09-01-2015 10:12 PM


AZPaul3
Some insight here but you ignore the addiction angle and that put's it a cut above as it warns of a real phenomenon.
Regards
DL

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Message 34 of 144 (767809)
09-02-2015 10:58 AM
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09-02-2015 9:34 AM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
I hear you but as Gary Wilson indicated in his talk, stats are hard to come by.
I do have a bit more that I collected from the political arena and science via experts but other than many pointing to an epidemic, none are putting numbers to their talks.
Enough Is Enough: Pornography
Even Muslims are agreeing with Western sources.
internet porn - Yahoo Video Search Results
Regards
DL

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Message 37 of 144 (767820)
09-02-2015 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Tanypteryx
09-02-2015 12:18 PM


Re: Free Porn
Tanypteryx
"monitoring what they watch on TV and the internet"
With respect, I see that as delusional thinking, especially now with many children having cell phones with internet capabilities.
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"The question is, who decides what should be restricted and what should not. There seems to be a consensus about child porn, but beyond that everyone has their own levels of what is acceptable."
This is where consensus comes into play, after the need is recognized, and people/experts are chosen to make proposals to government. No one person has the expertise on this issue.
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"I personally don't accept anyone else telling me what I can or cannot see or read or hear. There is not one politician, or religious leader that I recognize as having the authority to make those decisions for me."
You personally have no choice where child porn is concerned so our individual desires mean nothing when you and I choose to be governed by majority rule.
You do accept those restriction as you have no more choice than any of us unless you choose to break the law.
But this is not about what we want. It is about what is best for our next generation.
We are powerless to do the right thing and have to censor or directly choose to consume porn products.
To just leave those addictive products accessible to children is just irresponsible of us and poor parenting.
Regards
DL

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Message 49 of 144 (767841)
09-02-2015 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Tanypteryx
09-02-2015 1:09 PM


Re: Free Porn
Tanypteryx
"Censorship always seems to go too far."
I did indicate that I did not like it either in the O.P..
We so not censor all that much in the West and apart from repressive regimes, Hitlerish regimes etc., I do not know of any that have gone too far.
What did you have in mind when you made your statement above?
Where has who gone too far?
Regards
DL

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