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Author Topic:   Is internet porn ruining our next generation? Is censorship the answer?
Greatest I am
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Message 50 of 144 (767843)
09-02-2015 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by AZPaul3
09-02-2015 2:04 PM


AZPaul3
Darn. I guess your report is better than the ones I put up.
Strange how they had no numbers for us to really look at.
Watching porn must be the only known activity that hurts absolutely no one.
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DL

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Message 53 of 144 (767846)
09-02-2015 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Tanypteryx
09-02-2015 4:01 PM


Re: Free Porn
Tanypteryx
So some only attempted to go too far. I agree.
"If you are willing to censor someone else then you better be ready to be censored yourself."
Absolutely.
If I was promoting a product that caused a lot of harm I would expect censorship.
Strange that the Brits saw the need and took action and the parents in the U. K. did not raise much of a fuss.
Then again, they do not jail nearly as many as the U.S. does and might have a more intelligent mind set in terms of trust in their law makers.
They are less delusional about our so called freedom than we are here and probably put the health of their children ahead of that notion.
Regards
DL

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Message 54 of 144 (767847)
09-02-2015 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by AZPaul3
09-02-2015 4:12 PM


AZPaul3
We do know that internet porn is hurting people. I grant that we do not know how many but if you use the net, you can find all kinds of testimonials and workers in the field that are alarmed at the numbers.
This has a few and if you want more, let me know.
Enough Is Enough: Pornography
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DL

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Message 56 of 144 (767849)
09-02-2015 4:33 PM
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09-02-2015 4:27 PM


Re: Free Porn
Tanypteryx
All I have is an educated hunch.
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DL

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Message 58 of 144 (767851)
09-02-2015 4:45 PM
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09-02-2015 4:36 PM


Re: Free Porn
If we cannot trust our intelligence and instincts, who or what else can we trust.
On this, -------------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZY8jUuEzJQ
Regards
DL

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Message 75 of 144 (767898)
09-03-2015 10:21 AM
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09-02-2015 5:14 PM


AZPaul3
It was conclusive enough for the British government to be able to pass a law to cover it.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-23401076
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DL

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Message 76 of 144 (767899)
09-03-2015 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by Tanypteryx
09-02-2015 7:14 PM


Re: Free Porn
Tanypteryx
I agree on the education and most of what you put.
Education is key but I also recognize that it is children and young and foolish adults we are talking about and that some unknown number will fall.
If other addictive chemical. drug and societal addictions are any example, I place the number of failures to be at about 20 %.
I think that to be too high a price even if wrong and only 5% is a truer number and that is why I promote censorship or at least regulations as seen in England.
Online pornography to be blocked by default, PM announces - BBC News
Prevention is less costly than a cure.
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DL

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Message 77 of 144 (767902)
09-03-2015 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by RAZD
09-02-2015 8:54 PM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
RAZD
Good food for thought.
But for the reasons spoken of in my second link, the old porn cannot be compared to what we now have in the net.
That is addictive while the old ways were not and all the reasons and logic trails are given.
I do not advocate repressing the sexuality of our young. What I advocate is putting in place a system to safeguard and facilitate their being able to have a normal sexuality.
Regards
DL

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Message 80 of 144 (767920)
09-03-2015 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by ringo
09-03-2015 12:04 PM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
ringo
Get your ears off of what your neighbor is doing.
Just kidding girl.
"And of course not all pornography is choreographed or posed. There's plenty of candid nudist porn and paparazzi porn"
I do not think I agree with you on this unless the couple do not know that they are being filmed, because if they do not know about the camera, then chances are that they are fairly close and intimate and that would make lousy porn from what that clip in the O.P. says.
It would be considered by most watchers as quite mild and they would likely skip by it.
Anyone who knows that there is a camera running will play to it. There might not be a choreographer but the actors will do their own.
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DL

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Message 85 of 144 (767986)
09-04-2015 7:30 AM
Reply to: Message 82 by AZPaul3
09-03-2015 7:04 PM


AZPaul3
I think I have shown that the problem exists.
Although you do not think it has and think it inconclusive, you should consider if we should ere on the side of overprotecting the young or ere on the side of ignoring that protection and ignoring all the personal testimonials that we can access that show harm exists.
Regards
DL

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Message 86 of 144 (767987)
09-04-2015 7:32 AM
Reply to: Message 84 by Tanypteryx
09-03-2015 10:05 PM


Tanypteryx
There is nothing new under the sun except for our technology and perhaps our level of depravity.
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DL

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Message 97 of 144 (768430)
09-11-2015 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by NosyNed
09-04-2015 8:07 AM


Re: Under the sun
NosyNed
That addicting technology is what is new.
And dangerous for children.
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DL

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Message 98 of 144 (768432)
09-11-2015 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by ringo
09-04-2015 12:00 PM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
ringo
You sure read a lot in what is not said.
I said nothing of labeling porn viewers nor of coercion within the industry.
Regards
DL

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Message 99 of 144 (768433)
09-11-2015 4:50 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Tanypteryx
09-04-2015 12:17 PM


Tanypteryx
I showed that as high as 50% of children between 12 and 25 are being affected to the point of dysfunction and addiction.
How high of a rate of damage would you tolerate before advocating for censorship?
Regards
DL

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Message 100 of 144 (768434)
09-11-2015 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Phat
09-05-2015 2:08 AM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
Phat
A good find. Thanks.
What does killing have to do with A & E telling God where to put his stupid commandment for A & E to stay stupid?
Regards
DL
Edited by Greatest I am, : No reason given.

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