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Author Topic:   Is internet porn ruining our next generation? Is censorship the answer?
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Message 106 of 144 (768457)
09-12-2015 12:43 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by RAZD
09-11-2015 3:47 PM


Re: Sexuality Education
Then look to Sweden, Norway, Germany, etc.

They do make some pretty good porn, don't they?


Love your enemies!

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Message 107 of 144 (768475)
09-12-2015 7:15 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by Greatest I am
09-11-2015 4:50 PM


Darwin Awards & Drought
I showed that as high as 50% of children between 12 and 25 are being affected to the point of dysfunction and addiction.

How high of a rate of damage would you tolerate before advocating for censorship?

Considering that they would be removing themselves from the gene-pool (Darwin Awards for all) and possibly result in a reduction of birth-rates I would consider this a good trend. The earth is overpopulated, which is why there is such antipathy to immigrants and refugees moving into "established" societies. This is also why wars start over resources, like in Syria, where people were driven from their farms by (global warming) drought (is western US next?).

Enjoy.


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Message 108 of 144 (768476)
09-12-2015 7:33 AM
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09-11-2015 4:50 PM


I showed that as high as 50% of children between 12 and 25 are being affected to the point of dysfunction and addiction.

You have shown no such thing.

Message 41 and Message 52

After decades of study the evidence in the discipline turns up inconclusive.

I showed that as high as 50% of children between 12 and 25 are being affected to the point of dysfunction and addiction.

You have shown no such thing.

How high of a rate of damage would you tolerate before advocating for censorship?

Considerably higher than your no-show.


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Message 109 of 144 (768595)
09-12-2015 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Greatest I am
09-11-2015 4:48 PM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
Greatest I am writes:

You sure read a lot in what is not said.


You don't seem to have much to say, so I have to spread out a bit.

Greatest I am writes:

I said nothing of labeling porn viewers nor of coercion within the industry.


You imply in the OP that porn is a bad thing. If you don't tell us what's bad about it, how can you blame me for speculating?
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Message 110 of 144 (768597)
09-12-2015 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Omnivorous
09-11-2015 5:31 PM


Re: Sexuality Education
Omni writes:

The actors and actresses who provide supernormal stimuli of surgically and cinematically perfected bodies, breasts and pricks of outlandish size and heroic stamina, and malignant portrayals of human sexuality as sadistic and exploitive, all impact cultural norms and make even harder the often awkward negotiation of human sexuality.


That might have been true in the past but from what I've seen of Internet porn, it's pretty ordinary.
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Message 111 of 144 (768640)
09-12-2015 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Omnivorous
09-11-2015 6:29 PM


Re: Sexuality Education
Omnivorous

Illegal. Yes. Just as internet porn can be if we choose to make it so.

If your drug store was allowing porn to be accessed by children, we would be up in arms, yet there it is on the net and parents do not seem to care.

Even when given the damage statistics.

Regards
DL


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Message 112 of 144 (768641)
09-12-2015 5:12 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Tanypteryx
09-11-2015 7:00 PM


Tanypteryx

"I am against censorship under any circumstances."

You doubt the statistic.

If true, would you still not act to help the 50%?

If you would not act for that many, how many would you need to see hurt before demanding action and censorship or controls?

Regards
DL

Regards
DL


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Message 113 of 144 (768642)
09-12-2015 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by RAZD
09-12-2015 7:15 AM


Re: Darwin Awards & Drought
RAZD

Your own line might be heading for extinction. Strange how you do not care.

Regards
DL

P.S. The population will level off at 10 billion, which the earth can readily take care of, and then start to shrink. No need for panic.


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Message 114 of 144 (768644)
09-12-2015 5:21 PM
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09-12-2015 5:12 PM


Good Grief!

What part of "I am against censorship under any circumstances." do you not understand?

As far as I'm concerned, this thread is circling the drain. I am done.


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Message 115 of 144 (768645)
09-12-2015 5:25 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by ringo
09-12-2015 12:02 PM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
ringo

True that I spoke of the bad in internet porn. Nothing on coercion rolling viewers though.

The links given show quite well what harm internet porn in particular is bringing to our children.

Mental as well as physical dysfunction.

People do not seem to favor censorship but I see no other viable solution given all the conditions.

Note that other than education and parental blocking, no one is coming up with anything viable.

Regards
DL


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Message 116 of 144 (768646)
09-12-2015 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by ringo
09-12-2015 12:08 PM


Re: Sexuality Education
ringo

Look again for the first time.

This following is what was given to me by another woman.

'Monster Cock Destroys Slut Pu**y'
'(name) Loves Getting Her Pu**y Beaten Up'
'Sperm Swallowing Slut Wife Railed Hard'
'Nasty Ebony Public Slut get Cocks'
'Teen Slut on a Leash Gets C*m Drenched'

Notice a pattern in how women are spoken of? See how a common theme is the penis as a weapon against the women? Type 'whore', 'slut', 'bitch', 'c**t' or any racialised term with the word porn and/or some word denoting some kind of abuse, see what comes up and then come back and tell us it's only a 'healthy expression of sexuality'.

ringo

This is not what porn was in the good old days and the addictive aspects tells me we need to not treat it like the good old days.

Regards
DL


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Message 117 of 144 (768647)
09-12-2015 5:32 PM
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09-12-2015 5:21 PM


Tanypteryx

Just trying to dither out why you would be so dead set on not doing the right thing for our children.

If you have no high harm limit, then you are not much of a man.

Regards
DL


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Message 118 of 144 (768649)
09-12-2015 6:15 PM
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09-12-2015 5:15 PM


Re: Darwin Awards & Drought
Your own line might be heading for extinction. Strange how you do not care.

P.S. The population will level off at 10 billion, which the earth can readily take care of, and then start to shrink. No need for panic.

Curiously, IF there is no need for panic THEN I don't have to be worried about porn "disenfranchising" some people from participation, do I? I can continue to worry that overpopulation coupled with global climate change will affect orders of magnitude more people.

As the saying goes "don't sweat the small stuff" ...

Enjoy


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Message 119 of 144 (768656)
09-12-2015 7:23 PM
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09-12-2015 5:32 PM


GIa writes:

Just trying to dither out why you would be so dead set on not doing the right thing for our children.

I am already doing the right thing for our children. I don't accept you as an authority on what the problem is or what needs to be done.

GIa writes:

If you have no high harm limit, then you are not much of a man.

I don't accept you as an authority about the harm. I don't agree with you about what you think should be done.

You don't know anything about what kind of man I am.


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If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 120 of 144 (768666)
09-12-2015 9:23 PM


Save us, dear Lord, from those who would save us.

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