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Topic: Is internet porn ruining our next generation? Is censorship the answer?
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Jon
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Message 106 of 144 (768457)
09-12-2015 12:43 AM
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Reply to: Message 96 by RAZD
09-11-2015 3:47 PM
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Re: Sexuality Education
Then look to Sweden, Norway, Germany, etc. They do make some pretty good porn, don't they? 
Love your enemies!
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RAZD
Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: 03-14-2004
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Darwin Awards & Drought
I showed that as high as 50% of children between 12 and 25 are being affected to the point of dysfunction and addiction. How high of a rate of damage would you tolerate before advocating for censorship? Considering that they would be removing themselves from the gene-pool (Darwin Awards for all) and possibly result in a reduction of birth-rates I would consider this a good trend. The earth is overpopulated, which is why there is such antipathy to immigrants and refugees moving into "established" societies. This is also why wars start over resources, like in Syria, where people were driven from their farms by (global warming) drought (is western US next?). Enjoy.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.2
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I showed that as high as 50% of children between 12 and 25 are being affected to the point of dysfunction and addiction. You have shown no such thing.
Message 41 and Message 52 After decades of study the evidence in the discipline turns up inconclusive.
I showed that as high as 50% of children between 12 and 25 are being affected to the point of dysfunction and addiction. You have shown no such thing.
How high of a rate of damage would you tolerate before advocating for censorship? Considerably higher than your no-show.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: porn is an incomplete experience
Greatest I am writes: You sure read a lot in what is not said.
You don't seem to have much to say, so I have to spread out a bit. 
Greatest I am writes: I said nothing of labeling porn viewers nor of coercion within the industry.
You imply in the OP that porn is a bad thing. If you don't tell us what's bad about it, how can you blame me for speculating?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Sexuality Education
Omni writes: The actors and actresses who provide supernormal stimuli of surgically and cinematically perfected bodies, breasts and pricks of outlandish size and heroic stamina, and malignant portrayals of human sexuality as sadistic and exploitive, all impact cultural norms and make even harder the often awkward negotiation of human sexuality.
That might have been true in the past but from what I've seen of Internet porn, it's pretty ordinary.
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Greatest I am
Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: 01-24-2007
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Re: Sexuality Education
Omnivorous Illegal. Yes. Just as internet porn can be if we choose to make it so. If your drug store was allowing porn to be accessed by children, we would be up in arms, yet there it is on the net and parents do not seem to care. Even when given the damage statistics. Regards DL
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Greatest I am
Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: 01-24-2007
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Tanypteryx "I am against censorship under any circumstances." You doubt the statistic. If true, would you still not act to help the 50%? If you would not act for that many, how many would you need to see hurt before demanding action and censorship or controls? Regards DL Regards DL
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Greatest I am
Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: 01-24-2007
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Message 113 of 144 (768642)
09-12-2015 5:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 107 by RAZD
09-12-2015 7:15 AM
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Re: Darwin Awards & Drought
RAZD Your own line might be heading for extinction. Strange how you do not care. Regards DL P.S. The population will level off at 10 billion, which the earth can readily take care of, and then start to shrink. No need for panic.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4409 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.4
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Good Grief! What part of "I am against censorship under any circumstances." do you not understand? As far as I'm concerned, this thread is circling the drain. I am done.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Greatest I am
Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: 01-24-2007
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Message 115 of 144 (768645)
09-12-2015 5:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 109 by ringo
09-12-2015 12:02 PM
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Re: porn is an incomplete experience
ringo True that I spoke of the bad in internet porn. Nothing on coercion rolling viewers though. The links given show quite well what harm internet porn in particular is bringing to our children. Mental as well as physical dysfunction. People do not seem to favor censorship but I see no other viable solution given all the conditions. Note that other than education and parental blocking, no one is coming up with anything viable. Regards DL
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Greatest I am
Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: 01-24-2007
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Message 116 of 144 (768646)
09-12-2015 5:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 110 by ringo
09-12-2015 12:08 PM
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Re: Sexuality Education
ringo Look again for the first time. This following is what was given to me by another woman. 'Monster Cock Destroys Slut Pu**y' '(name) Loves Getting Her Pu**y Beaten Up' 'Sperm Swallowing Slut Wife Railed Hard' 'Nasty Ebony Public Slut get Cocks' 'Teen Slut on a Leash Gets C*m Drenched' Notice a pattern in how women are spoken of? See how a common theme is the penis as a weapon against the women? Type 'whore', 'slut', 'bitch', 'c**t' or any racialised term with the word porn and/or some word denoting some kind of abuse, see what comes up and then come back and tell us it's only a 'healthy expression of sexuality'. ringo This is not what porn was in the good old days and the addictive aspects tells me we need to not treat it like the good old days. Regards DL
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Greatest I am
Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: 01-24-2007
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Tanypteryx Just trying to dither out why you would be so dead set on not doing the right thing for our children. If you have no high harm limit, then you are not much of a man. Regards DL
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RAZD
Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: 03-14-2004
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Re: Darwin Awards & Drought
Your own line might be heading for extinction. Strange how you do not care. P.S. The population will level off at 10 billion, which the earth can readily take care of, and then start to shrink. No need for panic. Curiously, IF there is no need for panic THEN I don't have to be worried about porn "disenfranchising" some people from participation, do I? I can continue to worry that overpopulation coupled with global climate change will affect orders of magnitude more people. As the saying goes "don't sweat the small stuff" ... Enjoy
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4409 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.4
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GIa writes: Just trying to dither out why you would be so dead set on not doing the right thing for our children. I am already doing the right thing for our children. I don't accept you as an authority on what the problem is or what needs to be done.
GIa writes: If you have no high harm limit, then you are not much of a man. I don't accept you as an authority about the harm. I don't agree with you about what you think should be done. You don't know anything about what kind of man I am.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Coyote
Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: 01-12-2008
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Message 120 of 144 (768666)
09-12-2015 9:23 PM
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Save us, dear Lord, from those who would save us. Art Hoppe, "On the Death of Robert Kennedy"
San Francisco Chronicle, 1968
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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