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Greatest I am
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Message 16 of 372 (771153)
10-21-2015 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by ringo
10-21-2015 1:04 PM


ringo

If they existed?

Did you follow that link? Do you think it fiction?

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DL


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ringo
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Message 17 of 372 (771154)
10-21-2015 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Greatest I am
10-21-2015 1:09 PM


Greatest I am writes:

If they existed?

Did you follow that link? Do you think it fiction?


If you have a point, make it. I never follow your links. I'm at a library computer and I can't watch videos.

Are you saying that somebody set fire to a Muslim school in Canada and that the school officials didn't let the girls out without their hijabs? I must have missed the news that day.


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Bliyaal
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Message 18 of 372 (771155)
10-21-2015 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Greatest I am
10-19-2015 4:35 PM


Should countries outlaw the hijab, niqab and burka?

No. You like to talk about Canada so you should know that wearing these is a protected right.

Canada has not had a lot of problems to date. A few Honor killings when the young have refused to dress in the traditional way. I think that I would vote with the vast majority just to end Canadian Honor killings.

Murder is already illegal in Canada even when it's honor killings. Here's a good example : Shafia family murders

I also see this as a safety issue in the sense that in a nation where so many do a lot of driving, to add blind spots caused by head and face wear seems like a poor idea.

Do you totally ban alcohol or do you ban drunk driving? What about banning driving when you can't see around you. No need to target a religious group for that.

To be frank though, I see Christianity and Islam as homophobic and misogynous religions

Seeing your posting history here, we already knew that.


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Bliyaal
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Message 19 of 372 (771156)
10-21-2015 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Stile
10-21-2015 12:04 PM


Quebec is not a very good representation of Canada. They've even tried to leave Canada (and currently still try) at varying levels recently and throughout history.

Since the majority voted against it twice and the current level of support is under 40%, please don't include us all in your definition of Quebec. I certainly don't fall into that category.


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Message 20 of 372 (771158)
10-21-2015 2:04 PM
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10-21-2015 12:38 PM


This is what inaction might just do and if you count the Honor killings that Canada has already tolerated,

What honour killings have been tolerated by Canada?

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Greatest I am
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Message 21 of 372 (771163)
10-21-2015 4:22 PM
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10-21-2015 1:21 PM


ringo

It was information from Saudi Arabia. That form of Islam is basically world wide.

Regards
DL


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Message 22 of 372 (771164)
10-21-2015 4:26 PM
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10-21-2015 1:32 PM


Bliyaal

They ticket for cellphones as dangerous and head and face apparel that creates blind spots are also dangerous to the public.

Canadian culture and values are the men and women are equal. That is not the Islamic way and for us to allow the oppression of women is not the Canadian way.

Regards
DL


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Greatest I am
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Message 23 of 372 (771165)
10-21-2015 4:29 PM
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10-21-2015 2:04 PM


DrJones

Apologies.

Replace tolerated with suffered.

Regards
DL


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Porosity
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Message 24 of 372 (771166)
10-21-2015 4:30 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Greatest I am
10-21-2015 12:58 PM


Even ringo who is a woman.

Wait.. what? ringo is a girl? The Hell? I read ringo's posts in Sean Connery's voice!?

Edited by Porosity, : Doh!


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Message 25 of 372 (771169)
10-21-2015 4:58 PM
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10-21-2015 4:30 PM


Wherefore art thou ringo?
Porosity writes:

Wait.. what? ringo is a girl? The Hell? I read ringo's posts in Sean Connery's voice!?

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Besides, it's hard to tell, this far away.


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Message 26 of 372 (771170)
10-21-2015 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Greatest I am
10-19-2015 4:35 PM


GIA writes:

To be frank though, I see Christianity and Islam as homophobic and misogynous religions and would vote for any measure that would reduce misogyny.

You don't liberate women by telling them what to wear, whether you are the state or the mosque.


"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
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Message 27 of 372 (771171)
10-21-2015 5:06 PM
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10-21-2015 4:30 PM


porosity writes:

Wait.. what? ringo is a girl?

Isn't everybody on the intertubes?


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Message 28 of 372 (771172)
10-21-2015 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Greatest I am
10-19-2015 4:35 PM


Pajama Bottoms at the bottom of the style barrel
Are the large majority in Canada and elsewhere who would outlaw the hijab, niqab and burka wrong?

The large majority has spoken, and they elected Justin Trudeau as Prime Minister Trudeau II, a liberal following in his father's footsteps. Pierre was PM during the Quebecois succession movement. Fun Fact: Justin was born on 25 December ...

So the repressive policies of the Harper Fascist government will end. And with it I expect the persecution of Muslims as well.

Now ... IF there were anything I would like to see laws against it would be the wearing of pajama bottoms in public as if it were normal clothing.

It just looks like you were too lazy to do your laundry when you got up this morning.

Underwear would be preferable.

Enjoy.

Edited by RAZD, : ,.'


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Message 29 of 372 (771173)
10-21-2015 5:54 PM
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10-21-2015 4:30 PM


I don't believe Ringo has ever claimed a gender. S/he has had male actors/gunslingers as photos also, not just Sharon Stone.
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Message 30 of 372 (771176)
10-21-2015 7:19 PM
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10-21-2015 5:19 PM


Re: Pajama Bottoms at the bottom of the style barrel
Underwear would be preferable.

Clean Underwear would be preferable.


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