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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
My argument has to do with the spirit of the Constitution: since preventing one denomination from dominating others is its spirit, arguing that it supports religions that aim to dominate the whole world can't possibly be Constitutional. Yeah, for example there's this sinister religion known as "Christianity". * ''World conquest. That's what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish. [...] Thus, Christian politics has as its primary intent the conquest of the land - of men, families, institutions, bureaucracies, courts, and governments for the Kingdom of Christ.'' (404- Not Found) * ''Those who are obedient to His commands will rule the world, reconstructing it for His glory in terms of His laws. [...] The nation that will not serve us will perish (Isa. 60:12); all the peoples of the earth will be subdued under our feet (Ps. 47:1-3)--promises made originally to Israel, but now to be fulfilled in the New Israel, the Church.'' (404- Not Found)
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Is that "dominionism?" Your links go to an American Express ad.
Whatever it is, it isn't Christianity, which wants us to be separate from the world, in it but not of it, engaged with it, serving it as salt and light, offering people salvation, but not ruling. In fact it was the worldly ambitions that Christians can be prone to just as anyone is, that was I think Madison's main argument against a state church. It's what happened to Roman Catholicism after all, worldly ambition piled on worldly ambition once Constantine used the power of the Roman Empire for the Bishop of Rome, until they were ordering around kings and emperors. And these days not quite as aggressively but still doing the same as the Pope goes around telling nations what to do. We WILL rule the Kingdom when it finally comes, but not this world. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Whatever it is, it isn't Christianity, which wants us to be separate from the world, in it but not of it, engaged with it, serving it as salt and light, offering people salvation, but not ruling. And yet I note that there are still a few Christians in Congress, which according to your doctrine is apparently something they should leave up to atheists and suchlike. So, your interpretation of the law is that when Christians start telling people what to do, they're not Christians but have some other religion which is not Christianity and which is not protected by the Constitution? I'm not sure I agree, but on the other hand if you can persuade the Supreme Court of this doctrine, I won't object too loudly.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Let me make it clearer: The RCC and Islam are quite happy to kill people in order to secure their rulership, when they are in a position to do so.
Serving in Congress is just participating in the society, which is in fact something we are to do as salt and light. I thought we were talking about RULING THE WORLD> That's not the Chrisitian agenda. And are those sites about dominionism? Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
*groan*quote:
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Good morning, Ringo, I hope you are enjoying your time at the library computer. How's the weather in Saskatchewan? It's uncommonly warm here today, in fact I think it's a first in my experience for the Nevada Day parade, which is going to happen later this morning. The parade usually has the honor -- or misfortune -- of marking the beginning of the cold weather here. Do they serve coffee at the library too? I couldn't work at the computer in the mornings without it.
My groan was perhaps a bit uncommunicative. Sometimes there are no words, you can only sit there blinking and groaning. I was talking about the rule of law and you said I was wrong and gave an example of the rule of law to contradict me. The Bill of Rights is also law. But beyond that I'd already given my opinion about exactly WHAT "individual rights" are protected and you just responded as if I'd said nothing about that. Oh well. The Nevada Day parade is going to get a sunny warm day for maybe the first time ever as far as I know. I guess that's a bad thing if it's caused by global warming, but maybe it's a good thing if it's just one of those cyclical things and means we're going to have a wet El Nino winter as predicted, which would be nice after years of drought. Happy happy. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
We had a few flakes of snow on Tuesday night. It's pretty soggy this morning but it's supposed to shoot up to 10 degrees Celsius this afternoon.
How's the weather in Saskatchewan? Faith writes:
They do once in a while but I only drink coffee in the evening.
Do they serve coffee at the library too? I couldn't work at the computer in the mornings without it. Faith writes:
I was responding to your Message 158 where you said, "I don't see that it says any such thing," referring to your Constitution, as mentioned by GIA in Message 151. I was just pointing out that your claim that the majority rules is false.
I was talking about the rule of law and you said I was wrong and gave an example of the rule of law to contradict me. The Bill of Rights is also law. But beyond that I'd already given my opinion about exactly WHAT "individual rights" are protected and you just responded as if I'd said nothing about that. Faith writes:
Living in Saskatchewan, it's hard to get upset about global warming. As a friend of mine said, "El Nino is my friend." Worst case scenario: Vancouver will be under water and Kamloops will be our port on the Pacific.
I guess that's a bad thing if it's caused by global warming, but maybe it's a good thing if it's just one of those cyclical things and means we're going to have a wet El Nino winter as predicted, which would be nice after years of drought.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I was just pointing out that your claim that the majority rules is false. The Constitution itself affirms majority rule. The following quote attributed to Jefferson states how majority rule and minority rights reasonably work together:
Thomas Jefferson, third President of the United States, expressed this concept of democracy in 1801 in his First Inaugural Address. He said, All . . . will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect and to violate would be oppression. I've been saying that Political Correctness has a false idea of the extent of minority rights, to the point that they disenfranchise the majority. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Let me make it clearer: The RCC and Islam are quite happy to kill people in order to secure their rulership, when they are in a position to do so. Sadly they are not unique in that respect.
Serving in Congress is just participating in the society, which is in fact something we are to do as salt and light. I thought we were talking about RULING THE WORLD The distinction seems to be a purely verbal one.
And are those sites about dominionism? Yes. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
Yes, and as your own quote says, violation of minority rights is oppression.
The Constitution itself affirms majority rule. The following quote attributed to Jefferson states how majority rule and minority rights reasonably work together: Faith writes:
You over-use "political correctness" as a swear-word. It properly refers to people who pretend to espouse equality for political or economic reasons - a President who woos the Hispanic vote while planning a Berlin Wall to keep Mexicans out of the country or a retail chain CEO who woos black customers while refusing to promote black people above cashier. I've been saying that Political Correctness has a false idea of the extent of minority rights, to the point that they disenfranchise the majority. It does not apply to everybody who actually supports equality.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes, and as your own quote says, violation of minority rights is oppression. That's all you got out of that? Sheesh. Political Correctness twists the meaning of equality and freedom and minority rights. It's destructive tyrannical political propaganda. It's all in that Jefferson quote if you can manage not to gloss over its plain meaning.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Let me make it clearer: The RCC and Islam are quite happy to kill people in order to secure their rulership, when they are in a position to do so.
Sadly they are not unique in that respect. True, Nazism and Marxism share the mindset.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 296 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
ringo
Just a few women being abused is better than having many women abused. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 296 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
DrJones
If I wanted to say that, I would have said that. I am speaking of tradition and accepted world perception. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 296 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Faith
Here is a well put discussing the Islamic way to Western acceptance of Sharia. Capitulation, basically. Complete Infidel's Guide to the Koran - Yahoo Video Search Results . I think this link speaks well to the poor Islamic view of the apparel in question. Complete Infidel's Guide to the Koran - Yahoo Video Search Results RegardsDL Edited by Greatest I am, : No reason given.
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