Are religions manmade and natural or supernaturally based?

I disagree and I've explained why I think what I think. Does it add anything if I say I think it is pretty clear that you are wrong about Hawking's wording? I don't think so. I can imagine an answer for your question.Hypothetically, let's assume those force carriers were created a tiny fraction of a second after the Big Bang just as you suggest I must assume. Absent gravity, then whatever energy popped out of nowhere in a quantum fluctuation must simply disappear else conservation of matter is violated. On the other hand, if gravity/gravitons are created within a relevant small time period, then the establishment of negative energy allows the positive energy created by the fluctuation to persist.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Why? You've read here that some scientists believe that there are good reasons why our universe could have started itself. I have no way of understanding that but at least it's based on mathematical evidence, not just made up. There's no reason why your imaginary universe creator needs to be sentient or moral. Certainly the evidence that it's moral is totally lacking - rather the opposite, the universe is a hostile place. Science builds it's hypotheseses from evidence, then tests them - it doesn't just make shit up. Goddidit is a pure man made invention, born out of ignorance. The reason why science is successful in sweeping away the primitive belief structures of ancient religious superstitions is because it doesn't just make stuff up. It finds its answers in observations of what actually happens, not what some shaman says happens. It's how society progresses. Why there's something rather that nothing is one of the great remaining question for science, I personally doubt that we'll ever actually know the answer to that. But what we certainly won't do is make up an answer, form multiple mutually exclusive cults, get on our knees and worship it in fear our eternal damnation.

Yes there is. There even isn't any empirical, verifiable evidence that Gods exist today. Or maybe some form of Gods existed billions of years ago, but died in the meantime. You like your false dichotomies, don't you?

ICANTI do not care so much as to why you believe in a creator God as it all involves issues that you cannot prove or demonstrate.I do have a view that nature always creates for the best possible end for that organism, be it plant, animal, or whatever life there is.My question to you then is why on earth would your creator God create these abominations?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-nHw0_Fos&feature=playe...And why does your God keep creating only sinners if he does not want sinners?Let me remind you.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert EinsteinRegards
DL

Most likely this saying did not originate with any of the people it is usually attributed to. My favorite form:

Hi GDR, Ok you made a connection between those three things.
Like spacetime and matter are necessary for abiogenesis,evolution and the orgin of the cosmos to included my starbucks coffee. Yes we can decide to believe the anthropic principal or not.Some people are content to believe that the only world with God/gods are those with creatures that are there to invoke them.

AdminMany quotes seem to be plagiarized and miss-attributed.The web of lies might be well named.Regards
DL

Hi DL There are 3 creation events in the Bible.

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Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth..

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Genesis 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good..

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Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

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Genesis 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

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God ended His work and creation in Genesis 2:2. God has not created anything since that time.So get your theology straight and you won't ask such foolish questions. God has never created a sinner.Man is a sinner by choice. Due to the fact the man formed from the dust of the ground in Genesis 2:7 exercised his freewill and ate the fruit he had been forbidden to eat.So if you want to blame someone blame that man.Everything that the Supernatural Power created was perfect, without spot or blemish.Everything including the entire universe is under the penalty of sin due to the sin of one man.

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Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

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God Bless,

Hi Pressie,You may believe in God's I do not.I believe there is 1 Supernatural Power that controls all the energy and mass in, and outside of the universe as well as all the dark matter and dark energy.This Supernatural Power supplied the energy and mass to create everything seen and unseen.Thus this Supernatural Power solves all the problems of the BBT, String hypothesis and any other hypothesis that has been proposed concerning the beginning to exist of the universe and life on earth.God Bless,

That is one of the most evil notions ever cooked up in the fevered brains of theologists.

There is a bit of pathos in watching you pace this circle round and round...Why is an infinite regression required? I'm quite comfortable with the idea of an origin point for the universe sans extrinsic cause, supernatural or otherwise. You state this requirement as though it were established by science or logical proof, but you neglected to show your work. The problem of infinite regression arises when you postulate a supernatural being as creator of the universe. Science doesn't do that; the infinite regression problem belongs to you, not scientists.By the way, some scientists theorize multiple dimensions because the math shows the possibility, and observation does not yet confound it.They show their work. Theologians can't run from the logical and scientific difficulties of supernatural belief. That they are reduced to lurking in the obscurities of theoretical astrophysics is mere bathos.But if you especially like multidimensonal gaps for your God, rather than the shrinking ones here in this space-time, sure, tuck him in. Edited by Omnivorous, : No reason given.

Hi Omnivorous How does math show anything prior to T=10⁴⁰?God Bless,Edited by ICANT, : NoNukes pointed out error

Who said it did?

Surely this is a typo and you really mean T < 10^-40s or something similar?

Assuming the correction I suggested is made, we can make the distinction between physics which is what we can demonstrate to be true empirically, and those predictions made using math which describes what we know, but may also allow extrapolations from what we know.Here the idea is that math that fits what we know also allows things that are not yet verified, and may never be verified as correct or demonstrated to be incorrect.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.