Are religions manmade and natural or supernaturally based?

Hi ringo,But natural powers have to have something to exist in like the universe.The universe has not always existed.God Bless,

Hi Pressie, Do you know of any natural power that exists outside of the universe?If not then any natural power that now exists had to have a beginning to exist according to the BBT.There are a couple of hypothesis that has been proposed to get around the universe having a beginning to exist.But no theory.God Bless,

Hi Kbertsche, You can observe what is called gravitational effects on something.I haven't found anyone yet that can tell me what gravity is. They can give me examples of the effects of what is called gravity.Dark matter is what is supposed to be necessary to make the adjustment for the lack of mass to make gravity work in the universe. Like keep the galaxies clumped together. I do not equate God with anything, as there is nothing equal to God. I say God supplied the energy that is necessary to hold the universe together. If He were to remove the energy that holds it together every quark would fly apart at the speed of light.That would be some awesome fireworks display. Whenever you are anyone else finds out what makes gravity work you will find the laws that was put in place when the universe began to exist by the Supernatural power I mentioned in my first post which I call God.FYI The universe is expanding because that Supernatural power I call God streached it out. Isaiah 51:13, Jeremiah 10:12These verses were recorded over 2,000 years before mankind got smart enough to figure out that the universe was expanding. The one in Isaiah is also in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Yea I know I have been told the Bible is not a science book, therefore does not contain scientific information.I wonder how the writers of those 2 books knew the universe (heavens) were being stretched out. They were stating scientific facts.God Bless,

Do you know of any supernatural powers that exist outside of the universe?

At what point in time did the universe not exist? And how do you know?

The universe as we know it may not have existed at one time. As far as we know, natural powers have to have something "to exist in".The sensible approach is to start from what we know and work from there. After all, that is how we got the knowledge that we have now.It makes no sense to say that there "must" have been some voodoo "super" power. They said the same thing about fire and that turned out to be wrong. Don't make the same mistake about everything we don't know yet.

Are religions manmade and natural or supernaturally based?We have two camps: one thinks all religions are man-made and natural; the other thinks 99.x% of religions are man-made and natural, the x being theirs, which is supernaturally based.You could say we have broad agreement. The default position is that religions are man-made and natural, and we need something compelling to make us think otherwise.I've seen lots of scriptural pleading--the very essence of circular logic--but I haven't seen anything compelling in this thread. Did I miss it?

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To whom did you pose your question? The question does have an answer.

"Gravity" can have a couple of different meanings. As Pressie said back in message #251, "Scientific laws are descriptive. Not prescriptive." We have a scientific "law of gravity" which describes a real-world phenomenon which we also call "gravity". "Gravity" can refer either to the descriptive law or to the real-world phenomenon which the law seeks to describe.We can describe this phenomenon of gravity quite well. We have good, well-tested scientific laws which describe gravity mathematically as a force. We can predict the effects of gravity well enough to send space probes to distant planets and moons. We hypothesize that the gravitational force is mediated by a yet-to-be-discovered particle, the graviton.But what is this phenomenon of gravity, on a fundamental, ontological level? Why does gravity work? Why does it exist? We can't really answer these questions.

Hi Pressie, Yes, my best friend.God Bless,

Hi Cat, Not long ago you told me that time was a part of the universe.You have told me that time is a dimension in the universe.That means time could not exist until the universe began to exist.Conclusion: Time being a part of the universe and inside of the universe the universe does not exist in time. Time exists inside of the universe.Have you changed your mind about time being a part of the universe?God Bless,

Hi NoNukes, Quacks on the internet. As well as Google searches.I notice you didn't take time to explain it.God Bless,

No, you don't. You believe it.(By the way, I object to you calling me your best friend. My best friend is my wife. We've been married for 30 years. You sound desperate. Don't you have any real friends? My real friends are around me and I can talk to them every day and invite them for braais every now and then. You and me don't know each other from a bar of soap. You sound so much like one of those second-hand car salesmen with the greasy hair we see in ads on tv. They tend to call people they've never personally met their best friends).Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

I may be wrong, but I think ICANT may be referring to his god when he says his best friend ?