Are religions manmade and natural or supernaturally based?

And you told me that time was a duration between events based on the position of the Earth to the Sun.But your conclusion contradicts that.Have you realized that your old concept of time is not the one that should be used for these considerations?By the way, gravity is the result of the curvature of spacetime by mass.

ICANT will occasionally refer to God as his friend or his best friend. Sometimes it's Jesus. I've found it confusing, too--Percy

If time did not exist there was no time in which one can exist in, in order to wait 'until' time existed. If time's existence starts at the Big Bang, then there was no before it.Therefore, there are no points in time, when there are no points in time. There are no points in space where there are no points in space.If we are working in a General Relativity sense. If we presume time did not begin at the Big Bang then we enter the world of mathematically consistent theories, mathematically inconsistent theories and religious speculation.There are attempts to pick apart the tiniest of pieces of evidence to see if anything is empirically consistent in any interesting way with any of the theories - but not much we can have any degree of confidence in has emerged.You can, as many have, {insert God here}.As you have argued however, your own construction of supernatural essentially means 'anything is possible'. Which is another way of saying 'I don't know anything'*. Which is fine, but it is probably better to be direct.* Actually it means 'I can't know anything', but I was being charitable.

Percy, I find that ICANT completely devaluates what the word friendship means. I treasure friends.

Maybe. ICANT seems quite needy in forming friendships. Maybe I'm his God? (What's the emoticon for a god pulling his hair out out of complete frustration with His emotionally unstable subjects?)Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Hi Pressie,I think you may still be misunderstanding ICANT's answer to your question: You asked ICANT if he knew of any supernatural powers outside the universe. ICANT replied that he did, namely God, his best friend.

I did not take the time, because it seems based on very recent experience that explaining cosmological concepts to you is very difficult for me. The answer to what is gravity is available. It is pointless to ask quacks. If you searched on the internet, did you understand what you read?Below are some links I found in a brief (less than two minutes) search which describe what gravity is and do not simply describe gravity by its effects. The point is that your method of ascertaining that there is no answer is faulty, and your conclusions which follow from having found no answer you might recognize or understand are possibly wrong. Answers are available.Einstein's theory of general relativity | Space
Instant Expert: General relativity | Manual Landing Pages |
http://www.physicsoftheuniverse.com/...lativity_general.html (See the third page of a rather long explanation.
Einstein's General Relativity Theory: Gravity as Geometry - dummiesEdited by NoNukes, : small grammar corrections

Hi Percy, The only confusion is caused by the early disciples not being able to understand that the child that Mary called Jesus was supposed to have been called Emanuel which means God with us.Jesus and God are one and the same. That is the reason the Jews killed Jesus, because He claimed to be God.

quote:

---

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

---

God Bless,

Hi Mod, So how would time begin to exist inside of the universe?
The universe did not exist yet for time to begin to exist in.Without existence existing there would be no place for either to be, or come into existence.God Bless,

Hi Cat, Are you now arguing that the time that is said to be the fourth dimension of the universe and the time that measures duration between events are one and the same?

quote:

---

Not long ago you told me that time was a part of the universe.
You have told me that time is a dimension in the universe.

​

That means time could not exist until the universe began to exist.

​

Conclusion: Time being a part of the universe and inside of the universe the universe does not exist in time. Time exists inside of the universe.

​

Have you changed your mind about time being a part of the universe?

---

The time being discussed here is the one that is said to be a dimension of the universe. It has nothing to do with duration between events. I thought it was said that the tug between two large masses warps spacetime. That tug is said to be gravity. So gravity does not exist as a result of the curvature of spacetime.God Bless,

Hi Pressie, Are you that illiterate?I answered your question with "YES" meaning I know a supernatural power outside of the universe.I then called that entity "MY BEST FRIEND".So you are correct I don't know you from Adam's house cat and you are not my best friend.My wife of 58 years is my second best friend and has been since we met 61 years ago.But my wife did not die that I could have eternal life. The Supernatural Power I call God did do that by coming down to earth and taking on Himself a human body we call Jesus and go to the cross and be crucified paying a ransom to buy me back out of the bondage that the man formed from the dust of the ground sold me into when he disobeyed God and ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.God Bless,

Hi NoNukes,I read all the links you gave and I can not find in any of them what gravity is.They talk about gravity, 'a pull' that one large mass has on another large mass which causes spacetime to be warped, however, the distribution of matter and energy is in turn governed by the curvature of space. Which complicates things.God Bless,

Ok, so I misunderstood his answer.I still take exception to his answer. He devalues friendship. He believes that a Spook is his best friend.

You.C'mon, ICANT. Seriously? You really didn't understand that Pressie thought you were addressing him when you said "my best friend"? How can you hope to understand a few simple scientific principles if you can't even follow a simple conversation?--Percy

Hi NoNukes,UPDATEI found an article at: http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/.../questions/question30.htmlWhich says it is : The StarChild site is a service of the High Energy Astrophysics Science Archive Research Center (HEASARC), Dr. Alan Smale (Director), within the Astrophysics Science Division (ASD) at NASA/ GSFC.They are answering the question of: "What is gravity?"

quote:

---

We don't really know. We can define what it is as a field of influence, because we know how it operates in the universe. And some scientists think that it is made up of particles called gravitons which travel at the speed of light. However, if we are to be honest, we do not know what gravity "is" in any fundamental way - we only know how it behaves.

---

Then they go on to discuss what is known.But there is still no answer as to, what is gravity?God Bless,