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Author Topic:   Should countries outlaw the hijab, niqab and burka?
DrJones*
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Message 226 of 372 (773814)
12-09-2015 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 225 by Greatest I am
12-09-2015 3:03 PM


Re: Not in MY Courtroom!
You should not unless it is to rid free nations of those who promote slavery,
And what about those who wish to infringe on people's rights?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Greatest I am
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Message 227 of 372 (773815)
12-09-2015 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 226 by DrJones*
12-09-2015 3:18 PM


Re: Not in MY Courtroom!
We should all be against the Muslim men's perceived rights to keep his female children and wives as slaves.
Regards
DL

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DrJones*
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Message 228 of 372 (773821)
12-09-2015 4:05 PM
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12-09-2015 3:24 PM


Re: Not in MY Courtroom!
We should all be against the Muslim men's perceived rights to keep his female children and wives as slaves.
And if any actual slavery is occurring people should be prosecuted, but my question was about you wanting to infringe on the rights of muslim women.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Greatest I am
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Message 229 of 372 (773824)
12-09-2015 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 228 by DrJones*
12-09-2015 4:05 PM


Re: Not in MY Courtroom!
What right?
We already have dress codes and giving Muslim women the same freedom as the rest of us have against oppression is quite a good idea.
In fact, it is our duty as free people to insure that all share that same freedom.
Why do you not want to end the oppression of Muslim women in our free lands?
Regards
DL
Edited by Greatest I am, : No reason given.

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AZPaul3
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Message 230 of 372 (773827)
12-09-2015 5:07 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by Greatest I am
12-09-2015 4:49 PM


Re: Not in MY Courtroom!
We already have dress codes and giving Muslim women the same freedom as the rest of us have against oppression is quite a good idea.
It is an excellent idea so stop telling Muslim women they cannot wear a nijab.
In fact, it is our duty as free people to insure that all share that same freedom.
That's right, so stop telling Muslim women they cannot wear a nijab.
Why do you not want to end the oppression of Muslim women in our free lands?
Why do you want to continue to oppress them by telling them what they can and cannot wear?

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DrJones*
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Message 231 of 372 (773828)
12-09-2015 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by Greatest I am
12-09-2015 4:49 PM


Re: Not in MY Courtroom!
... giving Muslim women the same freedom as the rest of us have against oppression is quite a good idea.
except you want to turn around and oppress them by telling them what to wear.
Why do you not want to end the oppression of Muslim women in our free lands?
I'm against oppression, which is why I'm against you infringing on the rights of Muslim women.
Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Greatest I am
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Message 232 of 372 (773836)
12-09-2015 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by AZPaul3
12-09-2015 5:07 PM


Re: Not in MY Courtroom!
AZPaul3
You go ahead and protect the oppressors.
I will continue to fight for the oppressed.
Regards
DL

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Greatest I am
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Message 233 of 372 (773837)
12-09-2015 7:38 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by DrJones*
12-09-2015 5:08 PM


Re: Not in MY Courtroom!
DrJones
My last applies to you as well.
Regards
DL

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DrJones*
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Message 234 of 372 (773842)
12-09-2015 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 232 by Greatest I am
12-09-2015 7:36 PM


Re: Not in MY Courtroom!
I will continue to fight for the oppressed
By doing some oppressing yourself

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Greatest I am
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Message 235 of 372 (773843)
12-09-2015 8:13 PM
Reply to: Message 234 by DrJones*
12-09-2015 8:09 PM


Re: Not in MY Courtroom!
In your world that allows it without a fuss, I should have little problem, but I do it the right way. Through the law of the land and not with treats of beatings the way Muslim men do.
Regards
DL

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AZPaul3
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Message 236 of 372 (773844)
12-09-2015 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 232 by Greatest I am
12-09-2015 7:36 PM


Re: Not in MY Courtroom!
You go ahead and protect the oppressors.
I will continue to fight for the oppressed.
You are the oppressor. Or would be if you had your way.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 237 of 372 (773848)
12-09-2015 8:51 PM
Reply to: Message 203 by Greatest I am
12-07-2015 7:43 PM


Hopefully the misogynous Muslim men who deny their women first class citizenship.
Certainly not the women being forced.
Believe it or not, some Muslim choose to wear it. Anyway, what good would it do to ban it altogether? Out of sight, out of mind?

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Greatest I am
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Message 238 of 372 (773853)
12-09-2015 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 237 by Hyroglyphx
12-09-2015 8:51 PM


Hyroglyphx
Yes, some of that oppression will go underground, unfortunately.
But it would show Muslim men and their oppressive regimes that they are not compatible with our values and we will not tolerate open displays of their making second class citizens of their women and daughters.
It will also show the women that to our government, they are equal and not the second class citizens that their men make them be by their oppression.
Mine is just one nail in a coffin that needs many.
Regards
DL

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DrJones*
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Message 239 of 372 (773856)
12-09-2015 10:25 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by Greatest I am
12-09-2015 9:53 PM


It will also show the women that to our government, they are equal and not the second class citizens that their men make them be by their oppression
They are equal except for when they choose to wear the hijab, then they become second class citizens that you can punish for making a clothing choice you disagree with.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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AZPaul3
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Message 240 of 372 (773859)
12-10-2015 2:34 AM
Reply to: Message 238 by Greatest I am
12-09-2015 9:53 PM


It will also show the women that to our government, they are equal and not the second class citizens...
Not second class citizens until they make a clothing choice you disagree with, then you want the government to ... what? Arrest the woman for wearing a scarf? How about red spandex pants? Can we jail fat women for wearing tight red spandex pants? Please?

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